PvE vs PVP - the end all debate

PVP games stand the test of time, steam numbers don’t lie.

21-year-old game, still has the highest concurrent player base.

PVP and PVE can coexist beautifully, but only if you find ways to sync them together, not separate them. Archeage trade runs? How awesome were those? Competing for world dragons in Vanilla WoW? How rewarding were those?

PVPers love PVE when the PVP is synced to it. Such as competing for territory and rights to claim bosses with big rewards. PVP players enjoy challenges and dynamic content.

Stop trying to make two separate games. Decide what game you are and stick to it.

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I don’t know … The first is a shooter (almost everyone in that image, looking at it well) and the second a MOBA … There is no way they are not PvP

I think that for an MMORPG of this type, New World is still in a very good place.

And yet mobile games blow all of those out of the water some proof you got there

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comparing apples with oranges…
well done !

PvP games? You’re comparing an FPS, a MOBA, and an MMO.

Since New World is an MMO, you need to find all the other PvP MMO and demonstrate how they have held up over time. Lacking that you have no argument, only a category error.

%100 agree with you
but dont expect much support to your post.
What i see from forums this game lost too many pvp players already.
for me lag was the first issue ( i have no idea how they will fix it )

this debate is fundamentally flawed the issue with BOTH is that neither side seems to understand the need for a symbiotic relationship between pvps and pve crafters ect

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I don’t quite get your point here. Like, you are saying things, but I am not sure what conclusion you are reaching. Or really even just what conclusion you want to reach.

Regardless, the idea of “PvE players vs PvP players” is fundamentally a false dichotomy perpetuated by a small minority of players who want to force their playstyle on others. The vast majority of players in New World are interested in both types of content to various degrees. Sometimes you want to test your skills in a competitive battle, sometimes you want to find the most efficient way to beat up some poor AI. Those two things are fundamentally not at odds with one another.

The only time conflict arises is if one of the aforementioned small minorities demands that their needs be prioritized over others. Like when self-identified “PvP-players” demand that everyone should be flagged at all times. Or when “PvE players” insist that there is nothing wrong with rooting people on every heavy attack. Those conflicts do not constitute a fundamental incompatibility between PvE or PvP-centric playstyles. They are symptomatic of a conflict between players who just want to do their own thing and players who feel entitled to interfering with the experience of others. Actually a lot like many real life “political debates” that are really just policing peoples bodies and personal lives.

The fundamental conflict is not, nor has ever been “Between PvP and PvE”. It is “the playerbase and the devs against the problems”. Anyone who tries to tell you different is trying to win you over to push their own agenda.

Lol Everyone of the games op listed are free to play. Of course they have a higher pop. They also have 10 plus years of history.

What’s next, a post that PvP games require a monitor? Or wait… How about a potential link between PvP games and internet requirements. Do it op.

You’re comparing 3 different genres of games and calling it evidence?

Show me 3 mmorpgs with a strong active player base and a strong PvP scene or a PvP centric mmorpg that “stand the test of time”.

Comparing casual PvP to persistant PvP

Riiiiiiiight…

Next thread?

This thread is really why most of pve player dont like pvp … Come to the out of cave mate please :smiley: How can you compare counter strike with mmorpg :smiley: First of all please just try to learn what is " pve " and stop compare.

Best response to this thread hands down.

The OPs thread is actually hurting the pro PvP agenda!

You compare 2 games that steam started 10+ years ago with a game that launched 2 months ago?? You compare those 2 games which had Years and a DECADE of advetisment with a game that launched 2 MONTHS AGO?

Sorry, are you daft? What is your point? New World is on top 5. That is a great achievement.

Stop being silly and stop spreading hate about this game. Don’t like it? Don’t play it.

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