PvP locked behind PvE

Anyone returning to game or new to the game, can buy 600 gs but will be downgraded to 500 due to the lack of expertise, 600gs for a new player in OPR is 500gs, thanks to expertise, a pve mechanic

PvP and PvE are supposed to be intertwined as per AGS’s ā€œvision for PvPā€. Not to mention, this is really just a normal thing in every MMO. Yeah, you have to grind out good gear to be on equal footing in PvP. The grind could be removed, but then you wouldn’t really have an MMO, you’d have a FPS or something.

That said, the difference between a fresh 60 and a fully geared 60 is pretty extreme and could possibly be toned down a bit.

If u buy it it’s downgraded by half so to 550

Thats not correct. The downgrade is only 50% so if you are 500 and you buy 600 gear, you would only be downgraded to 550. Of course that kind of stops at 600 since you can not use umbral on slots you are not 600 in.

Please read the post title first, PvP is 100% locked behind PvE no matter how you put it

It sounds like you want to play a pvp centric game.

You can get to lvl 60 and do nothing but opr and get to 625. It’ll just take you years probably :sweat_smile:

Nice made up numbers :wink: dmg difference between 545 effective GS (fresh lvl 60 with bought 590+ gear) and 623 GS is 16%, the same HP. I tested it on myself.

Stop acting like GS matters the most, it doesn’t. Gear with right stats and perks matter.

This is an MMO, you have to participate in multiple activities to be bis.

Doesn’t change the topic point

how? u can lvl up, doing pvp, u can do opr, get gold and buy gear or just use the stuff from crates…
u get shards and expertise by only doing pvp

expertise by only doing pvp

When is the last time you played ?

u get it from opr crates yes :slight_smile:

You get it from PvE, which is not PvP, but yes you can get it from pvp ā€œalsoā€

ā€œexpertise by only doing pvpā€ ← you

And doing it by pvp only would take about a year

grafik

2 weeks ago btw

well it still isnt locked behind pve…
took me 4 months now to get all stuff to 600 with pve (ofc weapons i dont use), due to the fact i dont grind elite runs etc. yet i got most of my shards just from gypsum casts and opr. having my gs at 620 now.

stick to the topic please, noone is going to endure getting destroyed in pvp for months and enjoy it, as i said early in the post, returning and new players who come here for pvp are not going to enjoy it, i did alot of damage before i quit, as i only played for pvp

i do lol, just proofed u, that pvp isnt locked behind pve.
u can lvl via open world pvp.
u can get shards/expertise via opr.

so you believe 4 months of being useless in pvp, is pvp ?

that’s like me asking people doing high gs end game expeditions to let me in with my 500gs and tell them ill be useful in 4 months

funny enough ppl showed allready how much dmg diff there is and that it nearly doesnt matter and u still bring that argument

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there lying

False, the MMOs that have healthy and populated PvP scenes. Like ESO, GW2, and Lost Ark, have either equalized Ranked PvP arenas, or you can grind the gear doing only PvP, or they have it so the difference between Top Tier 0.1% gear and easy to acquire 90% gear is like 5% total stats at most.

Either way MMOs that refuse to evolve from this archaic PvP design. Are the ones the struggle with getting gamers to participate in their PvP. The MMO that evolved to supply the demand of skill based or low entry bar competitive PvP. Are the ones that are highly populated.

Sorry but if you like Mindless Skill-let PvP that gated by hundreds if not thousands of hours of boring PvE grinding. You are the minority of PvPers, let alone gamers. Which is why games with PvE grinder based PvP are very niche.