Even Zos knew this.
Same 
And I think this is exactly what was intended. Gives new players a way to make some meaningful bank, high level players can easily skip this content by just buying T1s from the market.
Yeah it should never be released without randomized spawn locations. They currently spawn on the exact same location. You can literately just leave your game at night with an auto clicker and your bag will be full when you’re back lol…
This is a very rookie level issue, but this is their first mmo, that was to be expected.
and yet everyone knows thats not what happens because the iron nodes anywhere remotely near any village are always constantly depleted.
They just need to code in an alternating spawn system That References the last Node Harvested and Alternates between 5-10 different spots per node. Upon spawn of node,server checks to see if a node was harvested there recently, if so it then randomly picks between the alternate 5-10 coded in.
I think uve misunderstood.
I am saying we add loads more potential spawn points then in any one period of time random ones would be active. So it would appear from a players perspective that each week/month everything had moved around. It wouldnt be that you go to a spot where last week there was 3 iron and there would be instead 3 gold, there would most likely be nothing in those spots as they are potential spawn points.
If you make the number of potential spawn points incredibly numerous then knowing routes of all of them is kind of useless, it would just be more practical for a player to run into the hills and explore.
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“core model”, “entire rebuild”… What?
None of this is particularly crazy stuff and is very easily in the realm of possibility.
This is not a core change to how resources exist and work, its just affects their locations.
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I think I hear what you’re saying and would agree if they had more resource spawn nodes. As it stands they would need to add more spawn locations. Otherwise, I think it would just lead to more resource scarcity as nodes would not spawn as frequently because people be farming like crazy right now.
I think the only solution given the number of total spawns is likely a limiting factor is to add T1 resource drops to higher tier nodes. That would be an easier fix and move some higher level farmers to higher level zones.
In response to an earlier point you made, the main difference between ZoS/ESO and ASG/NW resource system is the quantity of lower tier resources still required at higher levels. ESO you don’t need lower tier resources at a certain point in crafting whereas in NW the lower tier resources are always relevant. I only say this to point out there is a difference. Not sure what to be learned from the comparison, but I do think there is something there.
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I agree, this would be nice. I just don’t see them adding more potential spawns is my point. I assume the resource spawn locations are wrapped up in the core code, but I could be wrong.
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I dont think adding more resource spawn nodes is outside the realms of possibility, to be honest I think once you have a system which relies on potential spawn points over specific ones, it would be easy to just click all over cliff sides and allow the game to spawn nodes there. At the end of the day, all it is is a list of coordinates where some game dev has decided a resource can spawn.
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I hope it is that easy to fix. I admittedly don’t have a ton of coding experience beyond pretty basic stuff.
Also, hope someone at ASG reads this thread. I think this is an important issue in the future of the game given how much T1 resources play a role in the late game crafting.
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I agree. Having resources at fixed positions takes away some fun from finding them. If more people start to focus on certain resources there will be no chance of getting them because every spot will be mined very quickly. It will probably make bot’s jobs easier as well. Binding resources to regions is a good idea but exact locations could be randomized.
I believe this is a personal choice. I like the fixed position myself.
Besides I believe the game was designed this way, would take A LOT of effort to make such a thing, they would have to make sure that nothing spawns inside of anything, out of reach, etc.
I don’t think this will be ever made in this game.
Someone already had to go through all these map areas and place down the various ores in places doing these things. It would just be a case of doing more of it, lots more of it.
Im sure amazon has interns.
That also mostly only applies to ore, gathering bits can intersect quite safely.
I dont know on my server and it is one of the busiest servers, Iron went form like 1g to 0.15, it is easier to sell hemp and buy iron since its more expensive and easier to farm.
Maybe people don’t want to waste time with RNG, when they can. 0 need for randomized gathering, when resources are already concentrated. Just do fishing.
I completely agree on randomized resource nodes. I was flabbergasted when I realized the resources always spawn in the same exact location… why would you do that?
So, I can just keep running around to each iron node that I know the exact location of and have guaranteed ore (unless someone beat me to it). Imagine when the game is a year old and literally everyone in the game knows where every node is.
I don’t know, it just seems bizarre that I can just run circles the whole day on the same route and continuously dump the resource in the trade hall.
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So instead of “wasting time” on RNG, you run along to your pre-planned route to find all the nodes are being taken by someone else who looked up the same farming guide you did on youtube. Then you waste time trying to get ahead of them and eventually move over to the next route which is already being farmed by 2 people doing the same thing.
I either get on early before work or farm during lunch. Trying to hit node paths during prime-time, I mean what do you expect?
I’ve had no problem gathering, so maybe you are on a bad bot server or something, but your post is obviously skewed, if you think having RNG spawns would be any good. Heck tracking doesn’t even work half the time, even if compass doesn’t bug out.
Again, prime time, if your playing at weird times or before the rushes, likely you won’t have any issues. Especially in high level areas, I have almost no competition, because most people are still level 40 or lower. Ores are like the only contested node and that’s only if you go to high concentration locations, if you do most of the “paths” people put out, you might maybe be contested for a portion of it, but again how does RNG fix this? Heck at least you know how or if you can get ahead of someone. RNG wise you wouldn’t even know where to go other than wondering around aimlessly.
Now if we want to talk increasing nodes, esp for Tier 1 materials, I’m on board for Ores and Harvesting.
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