Remove Diminish return on haste, it causing lots of problem

not at all.
healer use evade not to attack, but to escap from gw/icewall. so that 3 sec 20% haste wount cause other haste to get DR.
he will evade and run for few secs.
then he riposte or flech to get that 10sec 20% haste.
most likey healer will not be effected by DR at all.

ye berserka keen speed hatch is a ferrari.
it is better to actiave the keen speed then the bersake to aovid triggering 20% DR on keen speed.
by that way you will have full 10secs of 40% speed buff combined , which is insane.
plus u gona have the throwing rework and social distance.
i bet hardly anyone can catch the lighting man.

I’ll review your feedback with the team! :slight_smile:

Hm… Bow has a passive that after a roll you receive +20% damage for 5s, that explain why that thing is bugged as ****.

So Devs implemented diminishing returns on BUFFS as well.

Dear lord this game :joy:

No, Empower doesn’t have DR. What is bugged about it?

And then after that fleche when I’m back on him, will he evade? Yes. 10 seconds is a long time when someone is sticking to you

It’s going to be fun

It’s goint to get nerfed.

Maybe :man_shrugging:. It’ll be fun to zip around without having to use a rapier for a min.

it does bug.
the empower duration for the bow rolling do suffer from DR.
but its not consistant.
sometimes, it refreshs back to 5 sec empower if you keep rolling.
but sometimes, esp when the buff duration is less than 3sec left, then u roll, and you will see the refreshed empower buff is only 4sec,
then roll agian, buff only 3 sec
then roll agian buff only 2 sec
then roll agian buff only 1 sec

after the buff totally wear out, then u roll again, its back to 5 sec duration.
clearly you can see it is affected by the DR, 20% reduction everytime

Can you get a recording of this, because no where do I see it would act this way in the code?
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it actually super easy to test it out in game, since u only need only lvl 1 bow with 1 point to take the bow perk [evasiv tactic] and keep rolling.
but i managed to make a short video, wher you can see sometimes i got the empower refreshed to 4secs, 3secs, and 2 secs (at that roll where i met the turkey) …

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Yea I just did the test, this isn’t diminishing returns. It looks like its a bug with refreshing durations. I’ll do some more logic tests

i guess its bugged with rolling that give hatse.
so spagatte code get messed count it in DR as well.
its clearly its DR bug sinces its reduced by 20%
but sometimes it keep refreshed to 3 secs duration
sometimes you get to 2 secs, 1 secs

I’m not seeing a hint of DR, I’m seeing an issue with it only adding 2s max up to 5s

in that video, my 3rd roll only give 4 sec emp buff.
my 4th roll only give 3 secs emp buff
then my 8th roll only give 2 secs emp buff

Yea, you’ll see its always only 2 sec, notice when it actually refreshes. It can’t be DR as Empower has no DR set and even if it did, IgnoreDiminishingReturns is set to true. It’s another issue.

But with less damage, so who cares. People seem to forget that you need to drop a damage perk to get Keen Speed, it is not free.

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If you have Keen Speed active, your Berserk haste would just be lowered to 20% due to DR. It won’t be beneficial to stack any long duration hastes.

There are a number of pretty suspect bugs going on in PTR that I have already reported like Rapier’s Evade w/ Allegro simply not proccing haste. Or if I do get haste, my character still appears to be affected by the haste buff as my character’s head is still steaming. Just hoping they fix this ish before it all goes Live since I am looking forward to getting a Health, Stam Recovery, and Alacrity amulet.