It’s hilarious that people actually think Shroud cheats.
HIs nickname is “The Human Aimbot” for a reason, because he’s THAT good and people cannot comprehend how someone can be that good.
It was literally his job to be that good when he was a pro player and he probably practiced as much as he could when he wasn’t competing.
If he’s not why is he dog when he streams? How come no other musket on our server can hit half the amount of shots Cuseni does? They aren’t nearly a threat. He’s the only musket that will hit you 4 times in a row every time. If you’re so good use a different weapon Cuseni and show us your incredible aim using the bow. I’ll throw you gold for the respec. Or show us ON STREAM a 30+ kill opr. You won’t
First of all there’s anti-cheat in the game, and while that doesn’t guarantee he’s not aimbotting it does introduce a very strong element of risk to using aimbots. Most aimbots are bought, they’re in the public domain, as are the methods they use to hook the game and control it. This means anti-cheat evolves rapidly to detect these aimbots and then ban the ID’s of the players, which in this case are unique because they’re tied to steam accounts.
If someone has been playing well for a long period of time but has never been banned in this kind of setup then it’s almost certain they’re not aimbotting, the only way that’d be plausible is if he’s a coder, wrote his own unique aimbot that hooks the game using an undetectable method and has never given the bot to anyone else. That’s so unlikely it’s basically implausible.
What is plausible is he’s just that good. There are many pro playres who are significantly better shots with hitscan weapons than he is, and the game still has 100k-150k daily active users, so among those users there’s going to be a bunch of people who are not only his skill level but higher.
But also…many of us who have a circle of gamer friends are likely to know someone or have friends of friends who are this good or close to it, most of us will know someone whos in the top leagues for a game wehther that be FPS or MOBAs or whatever, skilled players are not THAT rare, and we know and trust players aren’t cheating and they get accused of cheating ALL the time. I tend to sit somewhere in the top 10-5% of players by rank at any game I practice at a lot and I’ve been accused of cheating quite a lot over the years.
This is all just speculation and we cannot and should not ban players over speculation and opinion. Saying you and your friends agree its an aimbot means nothing, there’s many pro players here who disagree so there’s no consensus on this, it’s just speculation. Let the anti-cheat do its job, so far the game to my experience has been cheat free, there’s never anyone in a OPR who is snap aiming all over the place in an obvious way and I’ve played nearly 700 hours across 2 servers.
I didn’t watch the whole thing but didn’t see anything in there that looked like cheating. The people saying “3min”, all he is doing is free look flicking to check that he isn’t getting run up on by someone, check it in slow motion. None of his shots were snapping. You can guess location and line up shots via name plate easily enough.
On my server there are proper suspected aimbotters that are way more sus then this guy. Like they’ll fire off 3 shots within 2 seconds and all be headshots on a target, or will hit headshots on people tumbling or mid dodges or other movement abilities (seen via recordings on slow mo). Aimbots do exist for this game, and people use them, but this guy doesn’t look like one of them.
Hah you too late, they already say he toggles the aimbot off when he’s streaming, yet then they put together the compilation vid of his streaming clips and say it’s proof. these guys harassing him are just trash at shooters, and don’t understand pvp tactics or situational awareness. Those of us with brains on the server have so many running jokes around this situation.
already happening to me. hopefully ags is manually investing the reports. some ppl has this kind of mindset “nobody should be better at me, if he beats me he must be cheating”
Doesn’t look like any kind of aimbot I’ve ever seen. Wow is musket ever OP though. All you have to do is be able to see the red marker for a player and know how much lower they are than that and you can shoot them through almost anything. I feel cheated, as a bow main.
So I’ve watched the video a few times in different ways. Here’s what I discovered.
The cam movements around 3:20 are suspicious. I know that’s the one that everyone points out but that’s not even the worst one. It is possible that he’s checking his six but this isn’t something he does in any other part of the vid except one. It’s possible hes hearing fighting to his right (through I didn’t hear anything through the music) and when he looks to the left you can definitely hear fighting from that location.
The cam movement that is most suspicious is when he’s on the brute at 12:20. The cam starts to jiggle. Small jiggling in select games can be useful but I don’t see a way it’s useful in this game against a brute and never seen one that extreme before. When he then gets to the fort, he starts looking to the right, however there are multiple times he’s just looking into a wall (and a few that have sights on the door). It could be that he was just bad at moving the camera to the location he wanted, but that seems inconsistent with his other behaviors.
After that, his fighting becomes very standard and there’s not much outside those two to cause suspicion. In fact, there’s one point he says you just have to follow under peoples name tags.
I don’t think the suspicious behaviors necessarily means he’s cheating. And when accusing someone of cheating, especially in a public place, you have to have evidence that causes little to no doubt. Amazon does have anti-cheat software (as it picks up my asus lightning services, which is often mistaken as cheats). They’re not perfect. Give it time, gather more evidence, and time will tell.
Did you not read my entire post? Or are you just kind of adding on to it?
Also I’ve seen bots that easily work like that. I watch way too many videos of how different cheats work because i want to understand how they work. But yeah, as I said, a couple of moments are suspicious but not definitive, and when you’re accusing someone on a public forum, you need to have definitive proof.
Disclaimer: if you didn’t actually reply to me then nvm, NW seems to keep pointing me to your post as a reply.
Edit: actually, pretty sure I figured it out and you didn’t reply to me so nvm. These forums sometimes…
The only way to prove that someone is using an aimbox is to have a stronger cheat engine. It has to be updated daily to have any effect. Trust me you don’t have to explain cheat engines to me, i have been one of the most advocated person on the issues since the 90s. Videos are very difficult to prove it, especially if someone 1 macros it on and off. It is very possible it happened.
theres a guy on my server that blatantly uses wallhacks and exploits shooting through every wall with musket on his own stream. When he’s not streaming, he literally only hits headshots and drops 40 kill opr games consistently and top 3 dmg/kills in wars. Amazon just doesn’t care. His name is Chongal-Midian Chongal-Midian flicking to targets he cant see and shooting through rocks - YouTube. If Amazon showed kill cams or kill recaps it would be easier to report these players, the only proof we have on our server is his own footage QQ
Its funny. People are using this video and saying all the things they can to avoid believing it. Aimbots are not like they used to be years ago. The old school ones snap into place, the old ones track and stay tracking.
New bots are so realistic that you cant really tell if someone is using them or not. For this particular game, an aimbot can be set up to shoot in random at different parts of the body. It can be set up to have an 80% accuracy, 60% accuracy, and you can also do the opposite and make it as accurate as possible to always hit headshots and snap like old school bots.
There’s also a circle that you can make larger or smaller. Anyone in that circle will be hit on your determined places of hit.
So you can make the circle your whole screen or as small as a character would be from 200 m away. This makes it so you have to have some skill and it wont snap at all.
The problem with gamers in general is they all stick up for trash aimbot users claiming that the other person just needs to get gud. Computer gaming has been ruined for years with hacks and aimbots. Its unfortunate actually.
Anyone here saying that an aimbot snaps ir right, but also wrong. It depends on how you set it up. The more expensive ones for NW seem to be so good that it will never go detected by anyone that isnt analyzing every shot the person takes and seeing where it lands when it lands. Youd have to spend an ungodly amount of time to see if the shot hits 10 random spots on someones body in no special order. Aimbots are smart and much smarter than we are with our naked eye these days.