This op is right about everything he said. I agree.
Furthermore,
I have heard a lot of people complain that bruisers can do “everything” and then sight all 6 skills from great axe tree along with blood lust, complaining it allows them to “catch” anyone… I know of no medium bruiser that runs reap or blood lust in war… I suppose if you went schizo you might… but that’s not bruiser.
Have still not seen any cogent argument for why bruiser needed to be gutted and dismantled.
It will be interesting to see what new meta this spawns.
What if… The reason it was so expensive is because the build REQUIRED BiS gear to even function? You can function as a backline Dex Freak with 2 perkers just as good as well if you were in 3 perk BiS.
Bruisers NEED as much as possible to help it live.
I’m not arguing that bruisers weren’t OP. I’m just saying. It’s all straw-man at this point and none of it matters.
Also, Bow/Spear/GS/Hatchet/healer/musket pretty much anyone that isn’t a bruiser or an IG/VG support mage generally runs Ele Aversion over SF anyways.
SF was so expensive because it’s a very rare drop.
I kinda disagree here , there was a bunch of bruisers runing purp 2-perkers that could drop 1.2m+ dmg //20+ kills easily. Dex or assassin build are way less common in wars so you are WAY more into scrutiny and Need to perform well or will be replaced in a heartbeat. ( we talking about competitive wars here , if there is still some , didn’t got in a war since my 2-3months break , I only do mutation atm opr is really not fun. I think you overestimate how much people run ele aversion atm ( yea it will be really good next patch ) but bunch of people still sitting on their s.f. Like me with my 3 piece of gear s.f/freedom/resilient. Anyways we all speculating right now till PTR hit lives and we see by oursevles
An army diff is an army diff but getting the freedom and/or refreshing ontop of the resil/sf it makes a big difference. you can still pump 1.2m+ when you have the better army for sure as a singular person running 2 perks but if the whole main-ball of bruisers is 2 perks? You’re just gonna get diff’d. The other side, depending on if they added refreshing/freedom is gonna escape more and they’re gonna be able to capture on clumps more often. Individually? Not THAT much of a diff.
The gear gap vs skill gap isn’t anywhere near what it used to be, mainly because crafting was easier and BiS got cheaper but the principal still applies. Having a Gravity Well up every 8 second as opposed to every 15 seconds is massive on the large scale and the same goes for getting out of vines/scream fast enough. Freedom does make a difference.
Good players always gonna pump but when it comes to having ACTUAL BiS? It’s definitely more important on Bruisers than it is on any other class.
Attunement on a TS/RM GA? As opposed to Keen/TS/RM? Massive difference in damage numbers. Also, a 1.5m gold difference too. lmao. There’s a reason GA Craft mods were expensive. If you were anything short of BiS it meant your numbers suffered. If your numbers suffer, so does your content.
All you needed to be a good bow was Mortal Empowerment and a bow that is nowhere near as hard to craft as BiS GA and resil/Ele Aversion.
Bruisers won’t be looking for RE or refreshing as third , DEX will , you know how RoA do dmg on clumps ? You can drop it from 30sec to 17-18sec so basically double your dps on point fight. Bruisers will look for RM on GA it’s different setup
RM is a requirement but with a good combo of RFE and RFW you can have a Grav Well up under 10 seconds, easy. RM + Refreshing perks = BiS and so is a 3-5 freedom bruiser. I know plenty of bruisers who have sets of both and most of them prefer refreshing perks over freedom.
I’m just saying that a bow user isn’t gonna drop 2m to get the refreshing perks where as a bruiser will because the up-time of Grav Well is way more useful than the uptime of Pen Shot when it comes to value.
Pretty sure this is not an issue in PvP. Wallet warriors have been buying RMT since launch and they really don’t care.
Just too bad AGS isn’t making money from it. And they can’t because people would scream pay-to-win – when the game already is, illicitly.
Yeah there is definitely a lot of misinformation surrounding grit, 300 str, and wh/ga bruisers. The most vocal clearly didn’t know the build.
Comments went wild after the ptr pvp changes were pushed out earlier this month. Remember one guy saying GA is so easy doing the combo was easy free 4-6 kills every time. Damn I obviously didn’t get that memo.
Grit I feel was honestly over rated or the less informed attributed to much to it for what it actually did. It really only helped with not getting knocked down from wrecking ball in clumps. That was the single biggest threat I believe. Like you said it didn’t do anything for shockwave or cc.
GA/WH bruiser is one of the most predictable choreographed builds in the game. Slower attack speed with long “wind up” time giving away what was coming next. The people complaining hard on bruisers and grit I think we’re just people that lacked pvp skill and playing their own build. For some reason most complaining always seemed to be spear builds haha.
