I think this is the big thing people aren’t getting and you hit the nail on the head. Grinding expertise is not hard, its dull AF and incredibly unsatisfying.
No one thinks you are a chad gamer for grinding out 625 gs. You just spent more time grinding a inherently flawed system (not directed at you Arcadia just speaking out loud).
So many people seem to reply to expertise criticisms with “well its not hard to do”, they are missing the point entirely.
I thought they were making it easier with this next patch, and removing orbs. If you don’t like it, take a hike.
It’s getting better. But ya’ cant come in and make demands when you haven’t been playing and then try to hold the room hostage.
So you dont want to do any content you just want to get to the max gear score immediately? In an mmo? I dont think theres a single mmo that lets you cap out your gear score as soon as you come back. Many of my mates and I have made alts on other servers. We capped GS within days simply running dungeons. This game is actually so much faster at reaching end game then most other mmos
Thank you for missing the point. And your constructive feedback. Really providing yourself as exhibit A for what I was just talking about. Cheers.
If that’s your message to new and returning consumers with a dying brand, I hope you’re never CEO of anything.
Its funny they brought out 3v3s and still make people grind for a week just to get to 600. Saying it isn’t as bad as the old days of 1.5 months of chest runs does not mean people want to do it. If the game is fun, it does not need time wasting garbage to keep people playing.
You don’t understand. First, this system exists in no other MMO. So stop evoking the genre.
Second, grinding for gear isn’t the problem. Expertise is. The system is not fun or interesting. It’s tantamount to having players fill out a bunch of forms before they can play the game. Busy work. Boring.
And in case you’re new to gaming, boring is THE death knell for games.
Are they not making it easier or is everyone just ignoring that and wanting it eradicated right now, as if that’s going to happen?
Majority of the current player base already has 600 expertise so the update does next to nothing. 500-600 expertise currently only exists to gatekeep returning/new players from new content. We have 600-625 junk to constantly grind, so 500-600 is not needed.
Why should it be given to returning/new players? …So they return? Seems like they’re trying to make it easier for returning/new players.
Aren’t you gate keeping as well if you were to say they shouldn’t just get 625 right away?
“It sounds like the next patch addresses this a bit but I’m not sure its enough.”
From my original post.
TBH not gonna reply to anymore people on this. Tired of repeating myself and people not getting the point.
Hi peache.ak, thank you for bringing your opinion of Expertise to the forums, I also enjoy seeing all the player comments as well. I will forward this post up the chain so the Dev team can read through as well. Have a great day!
They seem unable to accept the fact that its their system thats bad in its essence, and instead of removing it, they just keep trying to “make it easier” for people. Its insane IMO
I thought expertise drops where from the 2 endgame dungeons where you need to be geared already or has that changed?
Nearly every mmo bases a characters strength on the gear score of their items, wow does it too. You cannot reach max gear score in a few days like you can in NW
i think this is fairly disengenious.
the problem isnt that you dont want to do x y z.
the problem is you have to do x y z to do AB and C
not that A B and C are any better than X Y Z but some people want to do stuff like wars. open world pvp, run dungeons, or whatever else.
however they are stuck for roughly 1-4 weeks depending on how much they play, after they hit 60.
its a progresion wall that abruptly changes.
yes its easier its WAY Easer now but that doesnt mean some people that jumped into this game for the PVP or the PVE would want to get stuck waiting to do those things. and in the mean time wasting all the time in between with garbage that isnt worth shit.
and nothing else feels bad like getting a dooms chance at 560 while you were grinding experience (better soon)
no one here is asking for free BIS full everything 625 1mil umbrals per gypsum casts.
the problem is that progression abruptly does a 270 off to the left for no damn reason. (the reason was ags was desperate to slow down progression so they changed the rules)
no one would of cared if from the get go, level cap was 70 and you would naturally make your way to 600 gear score.
What you don’t understand is that a lot of players don’t care about expertise. What they want is to be able to find pleasure in playing NW without having to go through this unmotivating grind.
It’s up to AG to do something about it.
I’m not asking for it to be taken out of the game. What I want AG to do is to provide me with lots of new and fun activities that I can do without expertise.
And don’t tell me it’s not feasible!!!
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Na!!! A system where you can run an expedition with Billy who has hit the arbitrary number, and will get gear that can be upgraded. While you get trash until such time as you hit the arbitrary number is FUN. People just do not understand FUN.
The amount of players that nope right out of the game sighting expertise, just had too much FUN. 
I made one the other day about it that got a ton of replies and views could you send that one too? love u
I don’t think he’s lazy. He’s just allergic to BS.