I am in a fairly active company and I got to M5 and guess what no one is selling m5 orbs. 3 days no offers, guild mates are too high level so they don’t want to waste their orbs on me - which makes sense cause they would get nothing out of it. You see the problem? I am literally locked out of progression - Simple fix remove time gated orbs…
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“only the 1% actually get the chance to progress”
You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried.
You’re in a company that won’t help you advance. You sure you’re in the right company?
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This isn’t about his company, this is about weird time gates that make people be toxic to others. You really can’t expect others to waste their orbs on <5 when they are running 10s, because that is a huge amount of umbral. What would make sense is if the lower gs player could craft more or unlimited orbs throughout the week, then his company could help him run HIS orbs. Unfortunately, under the current system, he can only run two mutators a week, without having to rely on others to give up their own personal progression, unless he happens to be running with similarly progressed people regularly, and they have the orbs and time to burn as well. I think daily orb crafts would make a huge difference in keeping people from being left behind within their companies.
It’s not toxic to value your own time and resources over another’s, even within a company or group of friends. If someone is trying to convince you otherwise, then they are just manipulating you to get their way.
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proof?
Yes, if i had to pay 50k for a m9 orb and decided to use it to help someone at m5 i wouldn’t. This is just a rushed and flawed system by the devs
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Well just wait till next week when everyone gets orbs refreshed, honestly whats the rush
im not in a rush the way its designed it forces you to rush, you have to get to m10 every week
If they removed orbs and allowed people to just spam them everyone would be 625 in a week. Then people would complain that the content was to easy and that theres nothing to do.
Cant win either way. Not like this is a sub based game.
But i do agree there should be more orbs for the less elite people, especially since not everyone was rocking full 600 gs at the start.
My 6 man company are running them, we are FAR from this fictional 1%
Just the very fact that it costs 50k+ to access a dungeon is proof that this system is fundamentally broken.
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there are problems, but you shouldn’t have to get to m10everyweek. its supposed to remember your progress I believe.
that said, friends will never have a reason to use their lower orbs. And sellers will always want to sell higher orbs
this means people can only assist on lowbie orbs, which eventually will make it harder to level up as you go.
my solution is, set a base level of reward for doing the content, nothing crazy. What a player should expect for doing tough content for 30 minutes.
extra rewards are unlocked by each player using an orb.
each player crafts 5x orbs. (most of the great stuff) This can be on entry, or in the final room, or just a chest and a key (orb is the key)
dungeons have a small entry fee in gold, if you beat it, you make a small profit levels of gold. (this is so players don’t abandon easily, and mostly try to win every attempt)
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so six people? thats a pretty tiny stat pool…
yep
Unfortunately they are convinced that time gating endgame activities and GS/Expertise increases is the only way to do these two things:
1: Prevent people who bought gold from being “top tier” by buying it.
2: Keep us from running out of content in a week at the endgame level.
It does neither of those 2 things.
The people who buy gold are now buying up mutation orbs from anyone who will sell them, just like they did for faster GS grinding with the previous highest tier of expedition orbs (regular gen/laz). They are still able to “buy” top tier gear, although at least now they have to play the content a bit to grind out their umbral instead of purely purchasing it.
They may even start paying competent mutation groups to carry them through. Its not that much of a stretch.
The rest of us who are at the endgame level and just got a new grind to do, ground out our handful of time gated orbs for the week and now have what? No content to do.
Both of those goals were not fixed by this “fix”
It just further consolidates the lead that rich players had for whatever reason cough RMT
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The content is easy. Now its just easy AND gated. I am actually using the mutation as a way to increase my expertise. I cant even get the loot out of them except maybe one slot. Every other way is too slow and I have already been doing that for more than two months now.
It doesn’t matter if people finish fast. What matters is the content is fun and rewarding. The grind gate path already drove most of the players away. The experiment is over. This archaic grind fest design people stopped liking 15 years ago. But hey, they have already tripled down on it. Why stop now? Keep going and see how many more times they can push grind gate before the last 100k people leave.
You know why M+ in WoW is its most popular content feature probably ever? Because people can just do it. They log in, they play it, they find it fun, they are rewarded for it. There is no time gate. There is no raining junk loot from the sky. Its just a fun game mode that people can do as much as they want when they want. People are rewarded for it with some of the best gear in the game if they are good enough. For people that like challenge they can infinitely be challenged in it.
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So I just got out from a temp ban (thanks) and suddenly I found out that that major thread about removing tuning orbs is now deleted. Very convenient, huh? It had like what, 700 replies?
That for sure is foggy
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DUH, hardly the 1% that you claim are the only ones that get the chance to do them.
Sorry but how else would you keep people from accessing the content? I mean hello?
Friendly reminder that: The latest patches are not meant to be rushed. Who cares if 1% can do it?
Just keep upgrading your gs with what you can do.
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