They want us to run around the map to invest time in the game. ESO is all about convenience. You got mounts, free fast travels (even to places you’ve never been by simply teleporting to a friend), and queues directly from menu. But at the end of the day it’s different games.
So solo players now HAVE to make friends to enjoy content. I completely understand your point. I really do. But the MECHANIC is bad and it has pushed thousands of players from the game. The number speak for themselves.
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actually its on the game, the social systems in it are terrible, No group building or match making.
Chat being a good example of this, people constantly miss direct messages, global bugged constantly exiting opr etc. our company resorts to discord to actually message each other. Suprised Discord isn’t against TOS as the game has an in game Voice chat…
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It is time consuming to farm/obtain mats for tuning orbs. The fact that a player wouldn’t be able to profit off other players who aren’t WILLING to farm the mats for their own orbs is mind blowing. It’s simple, if you don’t want to pay for a slot, don’t and move on.
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actually its simple, make the orbs sellable like every other farmable resource in the game, the opportunity to abuse this “slot” system is endless
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How could it be against coc to charge in-game currency for an in-game service? As long as the service provider isn’t cheating or exploiting, supply and demand will set the price people are willing to pay.
That said, this is another example of why crafted items should not be bop. They should all be boe. Crafters should be able to sell their goods, plain and simple.
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Exactly “As long as the service provider isn’t cheating or exploiting” does taking money, joining an instance with the paying players, then leaving the instance and they then cant complete it trigger this condition? Who is monitoring this, is it bannable? You know from what we have seen that no lifers are going to take advantage of the casual gamers trying to get into a dungeon.
Obviously these questions are rhetorical as there is no oversight or rules around this sort of “trading” trading has safeguards built into it such as the “lock in” system to avoid accidental trades and any exploitation of that has been and is bannable
I’ve not been in a group where the person who spent the orb dropped, so I honestly don’t know - this means the rest get kicked? I would’ve thought they’d be able to continue.
If that is the case, then clearly the seller is scamming and that’d break coc and be bannable. The group just needs to report him.
But I wouldn’t think anyone selling orb access would risk the hit to reputation, let alone risk a ban…
Please allow orbs to just be sold. If selling the service is acceptable, selling the product should be as well.
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Some of you are misunderstanding the point.
We get that is time consuming.
We get that it’s costly.
We get that people want to make money.
I’m not bashing what’s happening so much as pointing out that the orbs themselves are the problem. And it’s leading to people charging 2k per person to run one. So they make 8k from an orb.
Nothing else in the game grants that kind of money increase, and the cost vs what you get is astronomical. Especially considering that nothing is guaranteed, and the number of times these instances need to be done.
So, let’s push to get rid of orbs completely—especially for everything below genesis. And for the endgame dungeons, maybe allow a daily run or severely reduce the materials and cost so that you don’t have some players getting insanely rich off of others who may not be crafters.
Let’s maybe allow a group finder across servers so that people on low pop servers can get into the action too.
Looking at ways to make the game better—not just for the one kid getting filthy rich, but for everyone who wants to play this game in general.
with a bad group its going to take 1-2 hours to get them through genesis if at all, not to mention the hit to repair parts and the cost of the repairs, there is NO WAY a no lifer is going to sit through that.
Usually your in a company group or a group of mates, reputation is the only thing stopping people abusing it, which would work on low pop but not high
There is very little chance it would be bannable as its their word vs ours situation or would take a tonne of time by customer service to sort through chat and game logs to prove a situation happened
I am one of the sellers and I would love to do them myself but the way AGS made the ‘fun’ endgame watermark system makes any player with low watermark skip expeditions. You farm hours for an orb to get items that are worse than 50g greens from TP. So yea, fun system.
How much do you think an orb is worth ? What is a fair price for you ?
You take that fair price make your own orb and make your own run.
This, allowing orbs to be sold would make the real price show up… probably a lot higher than what they are now 1k-1.5k per person (5-7.5k total)
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As of now after about 660 hours spending to this game and i did finally made it to 200 in stonecutting, i do aswell have smelting and weaving on max. I’m not the smartest guy around, did not even play beta or something. I dedicated this time only on 1 playstyle with my character and did go fullout as tank. I got 2/5 Voidbent armor items atm. I have not even within these amount of hours spent, been learning any new weapons than 20/20 in sword/Gaxe/WHammer. I’m considering other weapons aswell, but i take it slowly atm. I have no rush. I done all mainstory quets there is, no sidemissions left either, except those u get from other weapon quests. Got 2/3 houses atm ( and yea 1 is the cheapest and 2:nd is tier after that) and struggling with ingame coins as i havent really the commitment to farm everyday. I earn my coins from some gems or somethingelse. Well back to the point. Stonecutting is part of the Endgame as it is for now, if u have done your MS quests already and all SM and got your free keys to that expedition, and just looking around for another round telling u have no orb atm but, hey u got 1, use it. And after that all is empty handed. Are u the 1 whos just gonna give away a hard earned orb that involves a hell lot of farming just for free? maybe, maybe not. These orbs take a lot of effort to craft, especially for Genesis and Lazarus. Sure i can give away my orb for friends i like to play with, but for those i dont know, why cant i put a little prize on it, without a complaint. Hey m8 i have done so many rounds of lazarus just invite me. I dont even know if i use my orb that we even are gonna finnish through the expedition, or like i dont have like forever to do this. Just look at World of Warcraft for example. How many isnt just out there trying to earn some coins to to let u be in their grp to just boost u. It’s not against their ToS, and it’s not here either… Sorry AGS if i i did go to far about this. But just just look at the effort people are doin to make this work. I havent, at this point even made a single tuning orb. because i dont have all the mats yet. I have to go out and farm for it. And there are many of these items that u cant even sell because it’s BoP, and some i have to pay my own coins just to craft it. Keep it as it is for now, be in mind that we now had some of the items req lowered. But i still have to put some effort to make it and pay for it. So ask yourself. why shouldnt u help me to contribute for my effort worth it.
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Yet here you are on the forums.
Players like you are the reason MMOs go to shit, we are all better off without you.
Good riddance.
And no, i wouldn’t charge a migthy sum anyway. Just to make it worth my time farming and buying the mats needed. Those of u people who dosen’t have 200 Stonecutting atm, what can u contribute to me to be able to join my grp. As for now i can only craft these highend expeditions 1 time/week. It’s me who are putting time and gold to make u a part of this grp. It’s a high risk chance for u to get what u always wanted in terms of loot. But thats for almost all other game out there. It’s a gamble. u dont always get what u are looking for. RNG be with u.
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lol. what exactly are you going to do about it? I’ll come here all I want and need to vent my frustration about the money I’ve spent in game. I never said I wouldn’t come back if I saw change. If you do not like what I have to say stay tf off my post in this very PUBLIC forum.
Bro you aint even gotta say all of that. What I am asking for is the removal of orbs so nobody has to grind for a dungeon run. I am saying this for you and for me. I’ve never seen a mechanic like this. I’ve got 770 hours in game and plenty of mats to craft any orb. I do them for FREE. Because I want people to enjoy the game. People contribute to my effort by running the dungeon with me. It’s subjective.
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