Should they create obligatory PVP zones? - Ideas for PvP

there is a few problems with earning xp from player killing:

  • not every weapon does the same dps and is made for killing - s/s life staff etc…its a lot of work and a lot of balancing, also every time you change a weapon you need to test your xp gain again
  • new world has a small population in each server, so system like like this can be exploited easy, players always take the fastest way to the top not the most fun
  • how to optimise the size of the zone with the players inside, but also keep in mind how much will somebody wait to go in

just a few on top of my mind

with the current server population and the global interest in PVP i would say only modes like 10v10v10 would be possible

The fights dont have to be fair and balanced in this zone, its whichever faction is the strongest will rule. This motivates the other factions to get in there and show they are better. there should be no player limits, maybe some free pvp xp just for holding on to forts.

one faction will rule one empty zone… nobody is going in if the server population is 80% purple
balancing doesn’t need to be perfect but it needs to be possible for any team to win even in 1/10 times

fine make profitable pvp quests to take forts.

Yes one faction will rule alot of the time this was how DAOC was and we were always trying to push back the Hibernians

if the map is large enough you should be able to back cap on the larger faction though

You made the point that views on a forum are meaningless because the same people can click one thread over and over and inflate view and insinuated interest. Then you tried to claim the metrics are there for a NW PVP server/zone. What metrics? Inflated forum clicks and a petition that hasn’t even hit 200? That just shows the interest isn’t there. If you’re one of those people saying the metric is WoW that is a false comparison. WoW has been around almost 20 years and has millions of players it’s not even remotely comparable to what people want in NW. That’s like saying Call of Duty is popular so NW should change to a first person shooter. Quality Science!

Ah, so you made an assumption. You ASSUMED that I based my claim off views when I had made no indication of that. That is YOUR failing, not mine.



This is how I view the demand for a PvP zone. I have repeatedly and blatantly stated that I don’t think a PvP server has any merit for this game the way it’s currently being designed.

These are the games that New World was originally built to be like, as stated in early developer interviews. These are the games that PvP players are hoping to find traces of in New World. These are the games, that both served as New World’s PvP inspiration and also drastically outperform New World.

You are making shit up and trying to change my narrative and it’s really fucking pathetic. Do better.

I’m making stuff off? lol. You are conflating numbers from completely different games trying to imply they 100% represent the desires of NW players. LMFAO. You need to do better. The games you are showing are completely different games with completely different mechanics that have been around much longer. Every game is going to have its core player base and some casual crossovers that play a little of everything. You know this. By your logic NW world needs dinosaurs and helicopters to. Oh yea and complete server wipes every month so we all have to start over and re-grind to level 60.

So if I post the player number from Call of Duty I’ve proved NW should be a first person shooter? GTFOHWTBS

I would do it instanced, cross-server, no factions, every group (1 to 5 players) for themselves.

200,000k people playing Lost Ark right now. Please sign my petition to make NW a top-down point to move The metrics have spoken!!!

thrust

Now, obviously AGS has long since deviated from this goal, but the players still come here looking for it as seen by fresh daily posts on both the forums and Reddit.

The desperation in your arguments is getting palpable.

What’s it like being so inadequate?

I like the idea of a doac style pvp zone, however I feel the server size is too small to support it to have any kind of meaningful large scale keep siege.

If the game had cross sever infrastructure I could see it (similar to eso) or if there were dedicated pvp servers where a larger portion of the server were interested in pvp.

Prob like you posting 4 year old articles while the game was still in development before the game was completely overhauled and released as a completely different concept. Then you even admit to it LMAO. Bro, just keep getting owned.

Like crying you want the game they talked about 4 years ago not the game they actually released? Go play Rust.

You know you can respond to multiple parts in the same post, right?

Each response to the same message (or even multiple messages) doesn’t need a unique post.

Yes, of course I admit to knowing what I’m talking about. Crazy, right?

Mad kid stay mad.

The big bad PvP jerks won’t hurt you if you stay unflagged.

100k players right now, seems like a good idea. Though I’m really looking forward to Ark2.

You seem like a low-performer. Am I wrong?

I do not understand why this topic is so heated. I find it extremely werid that players are so desperately anti PvP when we are only suggesting things that will not affect PvE players.

We go to great lengths to respect the PvE’ers with what we suggest. Most other games have PvP specific rewards such as cosmetic skins or unique looking weapons and armors.

we ask for no such things. We dont ask for anything that cannot be obtained through PvE activity. we just ask for something to incentivise or create world PvP activity.

I find it very selfish and honestly obnoxiously toxic that the PvE’ers are so passionately trying to discuss against it. There is no logical or reasonable excuse for acting such a way. I think the PvE’ers in this discussion should be quite ashamed of themselves.

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I’m not anti PVP, I PVP all the time and do just fine. The point is that we don’t need special zones or servers. People trying to say because other PVP games are popular means NW should completely change directions makes no sense. People can just go play those other games. There is a reason AGS changed directions with NW and I’m sure they had “metrics” to show a pure PVP was not going to work for them and they released a mixed game which was extremely popular but sadly squandered through buggy programing and lack of new content. The solution is not to completely change the direction of the game but to get it in working order with regular new content which they are doing.

We are here to provide AGS with current date metrics by voicing our requests. Why dont you let AGS do their job and deal with metrics and analytics instead of try to somehow prevent us? You can refer to 3 year old alpha as much as you want. We will voice our current requests in 2022.

Your arguments only achieve one thing. Make yourself seem like a jerk.

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