they are removing the LS+SB combo nut i haven’t tested if this 100% true just what people said.
Well I imagine the other melee weapons being nerfed and animations taking a half a second or more on GA/WH, it seems only natural that the SNS would rise from the ashes. 6 months ago people would call you crazy for taking a sword and shield over other melee weapons.
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People on the PTR have been saying that LS-weaponswap-into some other weapons cc still works fine you just can’t follow it with shieldbash anymore because of the pause.
It was the change to leaping strikes homing a few patches ago that really got people playing it. One of the earliest control your opponent to death builds was the light armor SNS/spear combo referred to as the Spartan. Sure we’ll be seeing alot of them soon the Leaping strike into vault kick sweep has been a viable combo since the game launched and the homing fix for leaping strike just makes it even easier to use.
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The high damage peaks with light gear are the real problem, not SnS.
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Agree.
I don’t mind sns, apart from the terrible leaping strike “animation”, maybe it appears on their screen. it’s more when you catch them out they just drop beserker and zoom off when you get them to 1% health.
That build has too much DMG and utility.
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Nah it doesn’t work at all. Even something other than shield bash
Completely nerfed for next patch. Worry not. Until then, try to block those combos, works rather well.
The only reason why SnS is ised a lot in arenas is because arenas are filled with mages and rangers and SnS deals with them very well.
This will probably remain to be the case even after the patch.
This.
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So they aren’t just nerffing s/s then lol they are actively ruining each weapon that can have conjunction with other combo from other weapons lol…
Next up is all combos will be nerffed, regardless of weapon choice, Thanks guys! bitched about every little thing now we’re going to have 0 combos! 
Thats how it works. In reality just about everyone can only play one style. The get beat up by another so they complain. The real problem is AGS listening to people on the forums. The current state of the game is your fault.
not mine XD but yeah for sure. They did however bring feints back which I’ve asked.
if they listened to me we’d have real PvP
This trumps OPR, Arena and Wars with ease… and makes more sense for territory control and brings in FvF in a 3 way system that DAoC pioneered (RvR) that matters.
and ofc, I’ve always stated DRs need to be immunity based not reduction based to prevent spam, just have to tweak the immunity timer to be around 3-5 seconds or based on the CC’s duration…
IF they listened to me… we would have a game that keeps stability and desync at first priority over anything “new”. Tired of seeing new content being pushed when the stability lacks for so many people.
I even called it on the VG’s release then the BB’s release that they wouldn’t fix desync first lol
(Note: anyone who think there is no desync or that “They” don’t have any, bull sh*t, go under the siren’s stand and fight like 1 or 2 maybe even 3 of the giant crocs) Use hammer, and don’t die… you’ll see…
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Against a coordinated pre-made that sequence their stuns, it’s actually pretty ridiculous how little you actually can move.
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cc resistence could help out abit.
If you want real pvp, you and your buddies equip some hatchets and go play in the back yard
No items. Fox only. Final Destination.
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Maybe it has this high number of “assassin” builds because it’s the only really efficient way to play against ranged weapons with light armor (which has been buffed a lot recently). So the real problem wouldn’t be the build, but how amazing is playing ranged.
So true. With all the light armor players around SnS is the only thing that can catch them. Watching two good players one in medium and one in light th light armor player wil dance around the medium player all day.
I dont think we should buff WH/GA. Im sad to see the leaping bash combo nerfed but i have mained a spartan build for a while now. And the split stat change plus fortified sheild rush and fortifying perforate buff the spatan IN SMALL SCALE is going to be even stronger.
They took out the split stat thing in PTR