Spear bow is feeling useless now

Something with 400 hours played with this combo and it just feels useless atm.

Moves make hit sounds and they do not register with spear. Example sweep. Sound will go off of hit but nothing. Yes grit is a factor but not that often otherwise id be seeing my increased dmg for grit right?

Vault kick the easiest thing to dodge out of. All it takes is you to jump back one time. This is suppose to be gap clearing not just another melee attack. Right?

Bow is just rough. Pen shot now is doing under 2k dmg. With no hit scan and theres arrow travel its almost unrewarding at this point to use. You get a few good times but most of the time its getting beat down by GA WA guys.

Poison arrows are just weak. The ticks are so low compared to the powder burn.

This combo is just becoming useless.

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Time to just move forward with being a ga wa user at this point if i want to enjoy pvp at all.

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The main thing is you cant even light attack into an ability anymore without waiting a whole second, its so clunky and completely butchered the bow, bow was already the worst and required the most skill of any ranged weapon tied with musket.

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Thank you.

You need to go light armor glass cannon build. Im 430 dex, my pen shots are usually hitting around 4k+, i just had a heavy attack crit for 8k last game.

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Hello @ApricotScarf,

On one point im on the same page than u! The Bow is feeling bit akward now.
But the DMG now is a bit higher than before. i Hit a lvl 60 Full amor Heavy player with around 4k in the head(it was around 3k before patch), and in pve around 8-10k. So nothing really changed on that side.

The time between skills is pretty long compared to other weapons, where u can use ability after ability.

Since the community moderator got involved. I have to disagree here! As you hit the nail on the head with the fact that bow/spear went from being the hardest weapon to play with, into just being frustratingly useless. It is wrong to just give up on the weapon because it got messed up. I liked the spear and bow because it really forces you to play better - the movement, timing your attacks, right combinations of special attacks to get out of sticky situations etc. Overall, the weapon combo was hard to play with and it forced you to really be engaged and committed to play the best you can - but that should be the point of the game. What we are left with is ppl putting on heavy armour and going Rocky Balboa against each other. Q R F left click, left click, left click until somebody drops and well to some, maybe many this is just fine, but do we really want this kind of pvp quality gameplay??!

As you can see, most of the pvp and pve players stopped using bow and spear. Musket is also in heavy decline in pvp – so something MUST be wrong! Spears special attacks became useless with al the berserks and other modes that make it impossible to control the opponent and keep him at a distance - that should be the point of the spear to be able to keep the enemy at a distance. Now ppl just jumps right in with a GA or WH and do 50% dmg with one power shoot (to much stagger :slight_smile: and left click. And my javelins and everything else is just useless because of to many grit. Nerf every other weapon? NO! Absolutely not, punish me if I let a GA player to get to close to me, but give me a fighting chance to keep my enemy at a distance. I have no range ability with spear. Javelin and kick have to be very precise in order to hit your target, and when I do 80%, they won’t go down and that leave you to another 2-stager combo attack that takes 50% or more of your HP.

If the player has a small shield, why can’t i hit him in legs or head, or body?? What is the point of the small hitbox then?

Bow - if you are an average player like 70% of the player base you will miss a lot because of the small hit box, compared to fire and ice its a laugh (the only range that I tried). Aim is slow, and the damage. Well, it !can! be nice, but like I said you have to hit your target. I have no useful AOE with bow, poison shoot…well yeah but I have to wait 30s for cooldown!!WTF - compared to other AOE weapons?! Why so small hit box compared to magic?

So how does a pvp event look like these days… I’m a light armour - so moving around and be fast in my game. Poison shot, and maybe two normal bow shoots as I back away. Because the arrows are so slow you have been quite close to makes some good hits at this point, always, you get the collector 8m - that is two light armour dodges, with a combo of WH and similar perks. You lose 50% of your HP. You roll out start firing your bow, because you spear is useless at this point, and you little damage because of heavy armour and you get caught again. The power spam circle is repeated and the evet is over. Opponent lost maybe 40% of their HP. At the end I have far more hits with my bow, but that doesn’t matter because opponent is in heavy Armor. I the opponent is using big shield…you can just turn around and, run or get spammed with left click and heavy attacks where you will lose in 80% unless the player is really really bad, and that is also no fun. How can a heavy armour catch me so easy?
All that being said, I know there are 5% of elite players out there that hit 90% of their bow shoots, and maybe stand a chance against this power spammers that took over New world. But I’ not that good, and it is not fair that I would have to be in the upper 5% to stand a chance with spear and bow against you average Joe in New World with a quick left click hand.

So please Amazon, don’t kill spear and bow, because it is a fun and demanding weapon. Don’t nerf other weapons, just even the field a bit. Give light armour some chance to run, give me some option to keeps my foe at a distance with a spear. If I go toe to toe, with a heavy I will surely lose, but at this point I have no option because no matter what I do heavy armour will always catch me way to fast, and then…Don’t force us to play pvp only with a specific weapon set. That would be a huge loss to game quality. Stop nerfing weapons, let GA and other heavy weapon users have their ability, just give me something to have a fighting chance against them. They can always punish me if they catch me close, and they always do. I have nothing to punish them back, I can always be staggered and heavy armour will catch me way to soon. If I hit all my bow shoots it will not be remotely close enough. Again, average players with average epic/legend gear vs average players with average epic/legend gear.

<3, have fun and I’ll see you in Aeternum!

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Please pass this on to them as well.

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