Please give it AOE stun as shockwave has.
Or give it 4m AOE pull and double burst as GW has.
Why can’t we have spears fighting GA WH bruisers in wars/clumps.
Also spear should have primary scaling with STR and DEX (same as GS)
GA WH only meta needs to change
Give perforate grit,
Use spear with thwarting counter + unerring precision passive.
Wala, you can trade with bruisers.
Yeah, perforate can be buffed too.
I’m not sure about grit, could be too strong.
But at least give us an ability to dodge cancel it.
I figure that it’s fine since only cyclone has grit and almost no one uses that.
Dodge cancelling perf would be great
Sweep has grit, and it’s kind of an equivalent to wrecking ball. But the second hit coup de grâce has no grit though, which also doesn’t make much sense to me
Ah yeah that’s true, the grit is so short I forgot about it.
Giving vault kick grit and better AOE/homing can also help spear bee more viable in clumps
Mmm. This is just an opinion but I don’t really think that vault kick is a good clump fighting skill really. Stunning one guy is just not very much help. The CDR utility is nice though. But also it gets completely invalidated by having 3 freedom.
It’s not, that’s why my main suggestion is to rework cyclone.
Even GS is going to have a lot of AOE CC and grit, crazy blocking, stagger etc.
Why spear can’t have a cool AOE ability, not a meme Cyclone that no one uses
I haven’t seen anyone land Coup de Grace since everybody is exploiting the knockdown recovery.
2 Stage skills are obsolete. Mighty Gravel, Sweep, could be a great deal of a weapon’s kit are half-useless now.
Whatever you guys ask, don’t remove the leeching from cyclone, you’d totally ruin my trolling build
Agree on that, coup de grâce homing is actually good, but adding grit wouldn’t hurt balance…
Might gavel, i don’t get why a long animation 2 step ability doesn’t have grit
GS is going to have strong AOE, grit on every ability, cc immunity, even in-built berserk.
Just let spear be also effective in group fights.
Slow and leeching on the cyclone is way too weak comparing to crazy GA WH full grit big AOE abilities that destroys everything on its way
Not every weapon needs to be tops in every content. If anything spear needs its rend and weaken nerfed, this weapon is outperforming everything in PvE and is mandatory.
I’m bringing these ideas in the scope of PvP context.
I forgot to mention this was meant to be a PvP thread
You realize cyclone is actually in an okay spot it’s just under used, under rated and pretty much a sleeper right?
Give it stun and boom, it’s OP.
0 delay and animation time stun.
Stamina per enemy hit.
Leeching.
Low cooldown.
You really want that?
Spear is kinda OP in pvp right now though? Everyone and their mothers are running spears everywhere cause they stick to target easily, have ton of staggers and huge damage % boosts.
Shockwave is much harder to land than any spear skill - it is super telegraphed, slow. You get punished for not dodging something so obvious. Other hammer skills are trash, mostly.
If you put spear against any other weapon in a 1v1, spear will win most duels, maybe except for rapier. I don’t think it needs any buff, it is quite opposite and there is no GA WH meta, everyone is running light armor IG/BB/VG Rapier/FS/Bow/Musket, GA/BB etc. GA/WH is only useful if you have a pocket healer which is organized content, which is only wars. And we all know wars are irrelevant since they are played by 10% of people playing pvp.
A pocketed spear user that’s good can 1v10 GA/WH’s. Lol.
Yeah, I am not saying spear is weak. It just doesn’t work as well as GA WH in Zerg flights.
I wish there was more spear melees bruisers, not just GA WH
There is.
Spear is meta.
Light armor spear rapier users in clump fights is the meta. If you’re not slotting them in your mainball you’re fucking up.
An entire mainball with them? No. But a couple? Yes. They’re mainball meta.
Well obviously. But GA WH doesn’t work ANYWHERE ELSE than the zerg fights. Even PvE.