Cyclone misses 80% of the time even in clumps, it’s not even close to maelstrom AOE
Also it’s 130% WD vs 220% on maelstrom
Push back vs pull and root
Slow vs enfeebling
Cyclone is in a bad state rn, even though other spear abilities are fine as they are
Valhalla.
Yeah, it’s pretty gnarly. Add in an Enfeebling skewer spear with Thwarting counter and some damage perk, attune or vicious and replace cyclone with skewer due to it being 3v3 and it’s disgusting. Spear is in a great spot whether it’s 1v1, 3v3, 20v20. It doesnt dominate 50v50 but it’s still very good.
Spear overall is good, but cyclone is 
I wouldn’t say most, but in the sense of being war viable, yeah, I’ll agree.
There’s better options, but being an unkillable rend bot that has good single target damage that takes an entire Main-Ball to kill you? It’s a solid heavy on point build.
If you wanna compare it to other builds that are meant for more than permo staying on point and constantly dishing out 45% worth of rend?
Yeah, it’s on the lesser side of spear. Doesn’t mean it’s bad.
There was a 4 stack of spears in a couple oprs I played yesterday. About a deadly as any 4 man you can build, no way to fight back with endless staggers and massive dps. I have a spear set and it fun, but like hatchet to strong for how easy it is to play.
It’s actually interesting to see 4 spears vs 4 bruisers, but I think bruisers are more oppressive and bursty
Definitely more burst but if you had 4 mediums and 4 medium while both stacks of 4 have a pocket healer?
If they’re all equal skill level and well say an 8/10 on skill, the spears would win no doubt. Doesn’t take much to I Frame GA/WH.
I’d say at a lower skill level the GA/WH wins though.
I think a mixed ball is best.
Something like 2:1 ratio mixing in IG/VG’s and BB/IG’s.
in a 5v5 dex/assassin players absolutely shit on bruiser/mage groups, in our company 5v5s no one wants to practice against those groups
What if it’s a point fight (the goal is not to kill it kite but provide more point influence) or a clump
That’s what bruisers are for, idk why you want spear to be able to do everything in the game
I want some variety in PvP, not just a single GA WH bruiser build.
I’m okay with them nerfing spear in PvE and giving it a proper AOE ability (not a meme Cyclone)
Dude you can’t add more utility to cyclone, the Spear toolkit is already awesome.
I think what you want is more weapons.
As do I. Lol.
I hope they get all this stuff out of the way, fine tune and bug fix then spam release like 8 weapons then balance for an entire month. Weekly balances.
You put the skewer buff on the spear and debuff a bruiser, it basically makes bruiser damage a fraction of what it usually is, the one exception is the hammers ability to clear the debuff. We’ve tested and the typical GA combo is like a scratch.
GS is even split, str isnt stronger scaling than dex and vice versa. So u can go full spear spec and still do good with GS
You want variety by making spear a weapon that works in every situation?
Hey all =) I like the cyclone ability. I think a cyclone doesn’t need to pushback, it needs to stagger enemy. Also range of this ability should be 4 meters. If you like my ideas, you can like my post about spear here [Focus Feedback & Bug Reporting] General Combat & Balance Changes - #44 by Doomsmoke_one
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