There’s a difference between balancing and something not working. Understand the mechanic first before saying it’s not working.
We dont need or care if their formula works what we are saying is the formula they are using means unlike other gems foc based build using a amber gem do less damage with a higher tier gem IF they got more than 5 str
If you got a measly 50 str and like 190 foc overall you will do less damage with a t5 than a t2 killing stuff that give white numbers thus has no bonus or negative to damage.
Now you’re just being an ass and nitpicking over terminology…I think our meaning in all these threads was pretty friggin clear.
Not working, and not working “as intended for the mechanic” are different, and is the pinnacle of this complaint. If there was a misunderstanding on that point i can completely understand.
Int gems have the same outcome depending on the conditions.
The mechanic has never been T5 = more damage in all scenarios. That’s not true with either Int or Focus gems.
In a scenario where you are hitting something that is giving white numbers a t5 should do more overall damage than a T2 period otherwise using higher tier gems become useless.
The gems were meant to take a portion away from your base damage to convert it to another stat …that you have lots more of thus giving you more damage overall.
They are not meant to just convert one damage type to another.
This to my understanding is incorrect. When the gems scaled at .50, the T5 amber gem scaled focus at the rate of .50 to the second half of the weapons base damage. Resulting in an increase in overall damage, superior to the lower tier gems, as each gem gave less conversion as the tiers were lower. Meaning that the superior option was always the highest tier.
No. Not at all. You’re still not understanding the mechanic of the gem or how attribute bonuses work as a whole.
As a general rule T5 will be better for mobs that have a Nature Weakness. T2 will be better for standard mobs. None of that is a given and heavily depends on your bonuses, damagetype buffs and debuffs of the mob.
Amber Gems never scaled at 50%.
They were what Int gems are at now.
Mate I have been playing GA since beta and when they nerf it they nerfed it hard and made t5 useless for most of us with foc builds there no way around that.
They need to fix this now that high str dps can self heal with trenchant recovery and our heals can be removed with nullifying oblivion.
Yes.
It was a balance pass because people were just GA/LS…they can probably return it back since there isn’t the GA bug abuse anymore but to say its broken or not working is wrong.
I can see how invested you are in the way that they currently work, so i’m not going to continue to debate this. There’s no “Misunderstanding how they work” I clearly understand and do not like the limitation placed on the amber gems, and secondarily to the int gems. And would like it to be reverted and “balanced” back to not being a poor choice for my weapons.
Again you’re taking the point of the thread and complaint and nitpicking terminology just to try and be able to say I was right…when you are not simply because you’re arguing against the wrong thing which is the main point of what we have been saying.
Good day mate I don’t have the time to spend arguing with a brick wall that’s not interesting in understanding and communication and instead wants to argue about words and terminology.
For the purpose of this thread the Amber gems need to be fixed, rebalanced and made equal to the other gems.
Soo like Int gems where say 200 Str/300 Int would lead to the same outcome of T2 being better? The point of the elemental gems isn’t higher Tier = better. It’s not nitpicking terminology, it’s the SAME thing as saying 20% Light Armor bonus doesn’t work when people just don’t understand the mechanic.
or 300 Str/ 200 Int.
If you go back to beta before the major nerfs to the gems. There were several factors that were changed that affected the outcome of damage. Focus gems were nerfed 20% scaling across the board for all tiers, and the second issue is that Elemental damage from gems was prevented from receiving any of the bonuses from the melee perks and abilities and also prevented from getting any of the attribute tree perks. Prior to these changes, the scaling from damage as evidenced from video footage showed that elemental damage was superior with the T5 before the balance. it is currently, not.
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We “understand” how it currently works right now. We just don’t like it. It’s a minor utility when it was and still could be a great tool for mixing and matching combinations.
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And furthermore you keep repeating that people don’t understand the “mechanic”. We really do! It’s just poorly worded and they have yet to even once elaborate on the intent of many of these issues. And the few times they gave us hope it just dissapeared. They have said multiple times in patch notes and dev notes that the gems are not scaling as intended and then never elaborated again. As far as armor scaling, We get that too! But if i told you that i was going to sell you a car for 80% off and when you got there i only sold you the bumper i think you would get upset.
Don’t use wolves.
Try T2 with focus scaling weapons. T5 without focus scaled weapons. Then compare the opposite
Yes use wolves because using a GA/with amber gems wolves are not resistant or vulnerable to anything in the attacks damage so it doesn’t muddy up the results and keeps the results “pure”.
The point of these gems was to be able to use a weapon that isn’t foc based or based off your main stat, that’s the point of all these gems.