I’d like to suggest an offer of a single paid amnesty.
Lots of people have been banned for different reasons and I fully support this.
But I also think it could be a good idea to have ability to buy anmesty for your banned account. You can do it only once. If devs catch you again then bye bye forever. But for those who realised their mistake it’s a good way to come back and continue playing this game without buying another account. I even agree if after amnesty you must create a new hero and start from the beginning.
Why not purchase a new copy then?
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because multi accounts are forbidden in lots of games. In my opinion amnesty is a step towards community. Then it’s your choise what to do. Buy another acc and probably get banned for multi acc or get amnesty and continue playing from your main.
I can’t think of any that ban you for having more than one account. Some will ban you for multiboxing accounts with 3rd party software, but that’s about it.
They do get testy when you have multiple forum accounts, however.
In my not so humble opinion, if you get banned, you deserved it. Zero amnesty, especially paid amnesty. If they’re truly remorseful, they can buy a new copy, start over, and don’t use exploits.
AGS knows who the ‘accidentals’ are, and who did it on purpose, and they act accordingly.
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some mmos ban you when you gain lvl 60 and then sell this acc to those who were banned and don’t want to start from the beginning. it looks strange when Amazon ban you for gold selling but they absolutely ignore account buying. and with permanent ban all they do is support ppl who actually create fresh acconts with 60lvl heroes and sell them for real money to those who cheated. So the punishment actually doesn’t work.
Isn’t it better to forbid multiacc and make paid amnesty in this situation?
anyway it’s just the suggestion.
No.
Hell no. If a player wants to come back after they’ve been caught cheating and banned for it then they can start over with a brand new account and buy another copy of the game.
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Or just don’t perma ban.
Ban an account for 4 - 12 months depending on the offence. Then after that, if they keep repeating the same behaviour, perma ban.
That way ags can keep the revenue on, and players wont lose too much.
Think of it as jail time 
ppl learn their lesson, or not. Then they are life time jailed
Also no - cheaters don’t deserve amnesty or “maybe they’ll do better next time” temp bans. Start fresh on a new account where they don’t come back to characters and gear they already have, on new accounts where they have to buy the game again? Ok, I guess.
There is a very low chance of someone that got perma banned to ever touch or buy the game again.
But if they are not perma banned, after their jail time ends, there is a way higher chance of them to come back to play the game. And they can still spend money on the game shop and give revenue for AGS.
Perma bans are a very bad solution that should be used only on very specific instances as first time offence.
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Perma bans are a perfectly appropriate solution for several offenses. We’re not talking about temp bans for being a jerk in chat here - we’re talking about cheating. It’s fine that you think playing an MMO with a known cheater is ok - I don’t. I don’t want them in any MMO I’m playing, ever.
Sure. Then you should be perfectly fine when you buy a duped item from a true cheater without knowing then you get permaban for cheating and your appeals get rejected. Happy perma ban and go ahead buy the game again, theb level up to max and work to get your BiS items again, just to buy another duped item and get perma banned again. You can keep this loop forever. That way yoh should give ags lots of money from buying game copies. Good luck
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Stop moving the goalposts - innocent people who buy things on the TP that were duped aren’t getting permabans, the people who duped them are.
You’ve said nothing about innocent players wrongly banned until right now, and of course I agree with you that innocent bystanders shouldn’t get permabanned.
Nice try at deflecting, but you really need to work on it a bit more.
Its not deflection and or moving goalposts.
They are just examples for your flawfull bias into bans.
The game systems make huge mistakes, most of banning tribunals are automated. Specific events trigger those systems. Then a human person (maybe) “reviews” those triggered accounts and say, oh yea the system must be right, the system cannot be mistaken, for certan he cheated, insta perma ban.
I know persons that got perma banned for cheating while they didnt cheat, but bought duped items without knowing just because they were 10-20% cheaper than usual, to resell them. How those persons should know those items are duped? Maybe the seller wanted to sell them fast because they needed gold for something so they selled cheaper?
But the buyers got perma banned and appeals were rejected.
Some players even got permabanned for descovering a game breaking exploit and reporting it.
You see what im trying to say? While cheaters get banned, some people get banned by mistake as well. Those innocent players will hurt more the game by bad reviewing it than banning a real cheater.
A cheater, yes, if they are perma banned, they can always buy more accounts, do illegal thinhs to rmt and keep going
But a player that got a minor issue or was permaban by a mistake and the ban wont be lifted, will never touch the game again
And yes, permabans should only be given to BOT accounts, very serious ofences like destroying a game economy by super duping thousands of items and people that keep doing that, or hacking in the purpose of winning WARs.
Other offencess less than that, should never be considered as a perma ban as the first offence.
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again a typical cheater will buy not a fresh game copy. he will go to the marketplace and buy an acc with 60lvl pers. selling accounts is forbidden in all popular mmos like wow etc. but amazon allows it and as a consequence allows selling accounts for real money.
at the same time they can perma ban you if you sell gold for real money - how this can be regarded as cheating? for game economy doesn’ t matter who has gold - you or person that bought it from you. there’ s no dupe or exploit. but you’ ll still be considered as cheater.
It’s nonsence that they have one punishment for all cases.
if they really wanted to ban cheaters permanently, they would make it not only for acc but for ip too. Now it looks like you can be perma banned even without cheating but you can buy a new game copy. and then devs show a constant number of “new” players to their bosses to prove that game is popular and sells well.
They do? Surely you can point me to something from AGS saying that’s ok…right?
Ban is implemented as for of punishment for severe and repeated cheating and exploiting forbiden things or “usage of bots” why would community want person like that back ? Hell no - implement perma ban on account or delete it- and account related through payment method (bank account)
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