Are You kidding me? There was a people who made 60 lvl within first 60 hours.
Me personally made 60 lvl within 2 weeks, literally doing just main quest and all sides quest. I mean all, every shit quest, even if I was already 40 and the quest was still for lvl 20 on Brightwood or so…
So I just can’t believe, that someone actually made a post that leveling isn’t fast enough.
I saw a lot of post when people suggest that this is even too fast, for me personally they could lowered it but I won’t make post about it.
And after 2 months of realease, You come, and trying to convince us that leveling is too slow.
What a brilliant joke on monday’s morning! Made my day
So I just can’t believe, that someone actually made a post that leveling isn’t fast enough.
I am making a post saying post level 30 leveling could be improved. If you look at the stream achievements above you can see that “Progress 11: Coming into my Own” Which means your character has to hit level 20 was only achieved by 68% of all players. And only 48% of players got to level 30, then only 33% of people got to level 40 and 15% past level 50.
Do you need any more data to see that most people didnt hit 60?
Trying to make a legit suggestions post here, to look at my post and assume that all i am trying to say is leveling is to slow is just low effort content. 1/10 comment. Your low effort comment did not make my day,
Those people quit the game cause of other problems, maybe after it will get fixed they will come back.
You are messing up data and trying to manipulate with that, that is the first thing.
Second thing that is You should get used to comments, like it or not, so that text about me dont coming back again, You can literally put it into your shoes. That is soft version
So yea, I am suggesting and telling You that Your post isn’t true, and quequing most post I saw on that forum: “there is no need to increase xp” and a lot of people will agree with me.
During the time You spend here complaining, You could already make 1 more lvl.
Edit: Dude, just get it, You are literally FIRST PERSON ever complaining about that. So far we only saw post that this is too fast, not too slow, so I think You jsut suck in leveling. This isn’t hard in this game.
The thing here is that leveling characterlevel is progressive and not linear.
While 1-30 is very much straight forward and very fast. Levling 30-60 becomes more tedious and this drove a lot of inital people away somwhere between 30-60. With the current endgame content wich is even a quadruple grind of the 30-60 Grind its probably best this way. As people would not have spent too much time grinding to 60 just to figure then out that the future girnd is even more insane.
The Progressive Leveling wouldnt even be that much of a problem if it would not Level Gate a lot of Content (especially on the PVP side). In combination with low pop servers its even worse.
PVP and some PVE is pretty much non existant below 60
OPR ← you need to be 60 to participate (and on low pop there is no guarantee that you even then can do it)
WAR ← as low level you get kicked out of it on high pop servers (even medium ones)
Invasion ← pretty much same as for war
Expeditions ← Gated behind Timegated Orbs with excessively high amount of resources needed that can only be farmed by groups
Elite Zones ← low level ones do not drop anything remotely usefull and high level ones can not be done (even with group) as a low level non 60 player
Open World PVP… haha good luck as low level either you do not find people (low pop) or you get smashed by high levels (proably high pop servers).
So before you hit 60 the only things you can do:
Main quests
Side quests
Crafting
This is not much variety, keeping in mind that the questing is just boring “go get xy” quest 95% of time. No wonder people are quitting while leveling, there is not enough content that seems to be rewarding and diverse to keep playing.
For PVP players
Scaled Instances need to come, something where they can just engage in PVP regardless of their level or Gear (Arena fights? with lower scaled groups?)
Level limited PVP engaging (PVP missions for non 60 players in the open world) with like something of 10 level intervals (lvl 1-10, 10-20,20-30,30-40,40-50) ← in mind new players picking up the game or old ones returning that are not fully leveled
For PVE players
It should be easier to get Orbs for low level dungeons currently it is not worth the time to craft those orbs at all, it should not be completely free but also the timegate should be removed. Those expeditions do not drop anything end game related either, so why put a time gate there if people just enjoy playing them, let them do it.
More engaging quests (i.e. where you have to choose between A and B and get different rewards depending on what you ahve choosen), or stuff like defending carriages against AI etc.
Your comment is just toxic and not constructive, my forum thread is about making early leveling better. You just slam it with a no content no thought post that just sounded toxic. I am not manipulating data at all. FACT - 15% of people didnt get past 50. What does that mean? Perhaps leveling is not as good.
However you say “Those people quit the game cause of other problems, maybe after it will get fixed they will come back. " So in a feedback thread you would say … " I think that they left because of problems and they will come back and you explain the problems you think”. Thats the whole point of suggestion threads. There is nobody that knows everything but you can at least give suggestions based on your experience. Im saying that im sick of toxic posters that dont know how to use a forum due to lack of moderation. I dont know if its a maturity thing or a moderation thing, but this forum doesnt know how to have a constructive non toxic thread.
Im level 60 with 600 gs, but thanks though. I just like the game and i want to create a suggestions thread.
Just have a breather and have a think why you are being defensive in a thread suggesting ideas to improve leveling in new world.
I completely agree with this, i had a couple of friends that play SWOTR and WOW get a bit confused they are used to Battlegrounds (as breaks between questing) and we quested for 2-3 hours while flagged and did PVP quests and we got into zero fights. I completely agree that some sort of non 60 instanced pvp is required to give new players a taste of how great the pvp is in this game.
I think the main problem with World PVP at lower levels is you barely ever actually see people flagged in the world while leveling that are around your level. When we played during launch there was a huge amount of people leveling and we didnt even see enough during the hours of questing to have a good fight, would hate to see it now. You would just run into 60s farming motes lol.
Yeah the issue is here the lack of new players. The starting areas are so deserted because hardly anyone picks up the game fresh or starts leveling a new character.
If you are a PVPer the grind it takes to even get into a fair fight in OPR or organized pvp is pretty extreme. Its a real shame, hopefully they can expand there instancing system to be cross server instanced pools to support low population OPRS and Low Levels one day.
I think if my friends tried out OPR they would of stayed to be honest, if they could break the grind up every couple of hours with a game of OPR they would of continued. Didnt get drip fed the good content during the town hall\quest grind.
What does it mean ? It means those people left when game had biggest issues like gold dumping etc.
There can be literally plenty reasons, so yea, You are trying to manipulate data by saying that this is for sure low leveling progression fault.
And jesus christ, kiddo, stop calling toxic comment every comment which is not what You wanted to hear. All of You guys are using “toxic” word way too often. Sometimes things are more simple than You think.
But to know that You would need some imgination.
by the way, did You read at least one thread about server merges, before You are suggesting cross server OPR ? Cause it seems not. You are coming here, throwing some crazy ideas on the left and the right, and then calling people toxic, cause they did not agree with ya…
You clearly are reading and understand only what You want.
I said gold dumping as one of the reasons, and said that there is plenty more, just check the forum and why people left on their 30-40.
But You are again trying to manipulate the data and resay my words as “Gold dumping” was the only reason …
Dude, tell me, what for even to discuss with You ?
Im not calling people toxic, im just calling you toxic. You dont know how to converse in a Non Aggressive suggestion thread and you are arguing with a guy about leveling improvements people have opinions on in new world while not having any suggestions other than " People will come back when major issues are fixed or they left because of gold dump". Im going to stop replying to you because i dont think you have the maturity yet to respond to a non meme thread.
Stop hijackings the thread with your zero content hot takes. You have nothing of value to add to the conversation in this thread so far. Nothing at all
Thanks for all your content in the suggestions to improve leveling thread. Im glad all you had was “you abusing data to increase leveling speed”.
and then
“Those people quit the game cause of other problems, maybe after it will get fixed they will come back.”
Thanks for the rich opinion on why you think people quit and your suggestion to improve leveling.
Even the amazon devs have said that they failed at post level 30 leveling, its not abusing data to say that post level 30 leveling is bad and needs suggestions that is the whole purpose of the thread. If you think it needs to be slowed down more or kept the same and nothing core to leveling needs to change then sure.
I never said people left the game because of slow leveling. I just made suggestions to improve leveling.
Read your first comment and tell me that is not toxic, do you not understand condescension? read your comment and tell me you are not being condescending to a simple feedback forum
You instantly made it personal with me and made my feedback a joke, you are toxic. Read your first post.
If you read your post and you dont see anything wrong then you are truly lost and there is no way to save this forum
Like I said, You guys using “toxic” word way too often on this forum and all.
Was my comment not nice and not agreeing with Your opinion? Yes, it was.
Was my comment already “toxic”? Well, I don;t think so…
Did I start to insult You etc without saying anything else? Nope. And that would be real toxic.
I am ending with this thread.
Wish You good luck, but in my opinion, leveling isn’t bad, at least not as bad as You describe. By playing 500 hours+ I have find way more serious problems needed to fix, than leveling.
I don’t mean to sound dismissive but iif you think the game gets tedious after lv 30, you’re in for cold shower once you get to 60.
The leveling process from 1 to 60 is BY FAR more enjoyable than the endgame as of right now. I wouldn’t touch anything about it before fixing the real issues.
For the same reasons people quitting before 50 are totally irrelevant, this just isn’t the game for them, no matter what is done to improve that part of the progression.
I guess the benefit for being level 60 is you can queue and play OPR (instanced pvp) which you cannot do pre 60. Next patch it will give good progression so it will be even better.
I think the game gets tedious after 30 but i had a fine time once at level 60. Yea there is a near endless grind at 60 and there is always something to do but thats the nature of MMORPGs. I think end game progression and leveling is just to different things.
Basically as soon as i hit 60 all i did was get enough gold for some okay resil gear and queue OPR and war. Have not been grinding watermark at all or doing anything i dont enjoy.
