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What is your character name in New World: Badmartigan
What server/world did you experience your issue on: Ensipe
Describe the issue you are experiencing:
Holding down the self-target key and pressing a targeted heal will often cast the heal on the ground instead. This is pressing the self-target key first and while holding this key down pressing the targeted heal key. You will briefly see the target marker on the ground and then it resolves. Pressing the self-target key again while the target market is on the ground does not work.
I believe that the game often doesn’t register multiple keys being depressed at the same time. Especially during movement. I’m not sure why it resolves the heal, usually you should have to press the mouse key or have to press the targeted heal in order for the heal to resolve when it’s ground targeting.
Is this a bug or an exploit: Bug
(if a bug) How did the issue effect your gameplay: Kills my character a lot when the ground gets healed when the character needs to be healed instead.
(if a bug) Were you able to recover from the issue: I’m dead so respawn.
(if a bug) Please include a screenshot or video of the issue that you have experienced:
What are the steps to reproduce the issue as you experienced:
Play the game as a healer and use targeted heals. You’ll encounter this.
PS this usually only happens while fighting i.e. there are other targets than yourself for the game to think you’re targeting. However, targeted heals interface needs rework - the interface and ability to correctly resolve a targeted heal in this game is probably the worst of any mmo.
I am also experiencing this bug exactly as described. I’ve only died twice because of it (I’ve managed to dodge until the heal comes off cooldown most times) but it’s definitely a big issue.
I think I’ve figured out what part of the problem is. And it’s built into the interface to be frustrating.
The key command for Self Target is (Hold) Key. This means you can’t tap the key to self target, you have to sit and press it. In a perfect world this means that you can’t tap the key for like 1/4 of a second but you need to hold it for 1/2 to 1 second to get it to work. One, this is kind of dumb and inconsistent since other (Hold) commands you can tap and they will work for example WASD all say hold but you can tap them.
But on top of that the game drops commands all the time, it loses input so it doesn’t recognize the long key press.
In any case, it’s a terrible targeted healing system. There are numerous Gameplay Options for healing and none of them are halfway decent.
My suggestion: remove the (hold) requirement to activate the self target key, it screws everything up.
On another note, even if you press and hold the self target button and then press your heal, the game will still often target the ground.
At this point, I have to do some acrobatics on the keyboard/mouse:
the movement direction button so I don’t die
the self target button
the heal ability button
not press the left mouse button to defend myself
Wait for the system to decide if I have a ground target or a self-target. Then if I’ve got a ground target, I need to un-press the self target button and then re-press it?
All the while you’ve got particle effects and crap on the ground that you can barely see.
Again, this is the worst targeted healing system I’ve seen in a mmo.
The right way to do this is: Press heal button. Press target (like self or group) button. Un-press heal button. Heal resolves properly on target.
For non-group heals: remove ground targeted heals (or at the very least, don’t use the left mouse key to resolve these heals) Use smart aiming instead (best target in a cone of view from caster). Or at least all heals like beacon or orb of protection with a better hit box. It’s impossible currently to aim single target heals without using the lock-in system.
Heal should resolve when the ability key is un-pressed when using aim or a target (self/group) button otherwise.
STOP making the left mouse button resolve heals. It’s an attack button not a ability resolution button.
Or at least let the mouse wheel allow you to cycle to yourself even when you’re not in a party.
I made an account solely to bring this to attention. It is the single most frustrating bug i have ever experienced, and as a PVPer i’ve gotten killed countless times to it as my final moments are spent watching my heal go to the ground 2m in front of me.
Please, dear god, we have it hard enough as it is with this healing system- FIX THIS BUG <3
This bug makes me want to just run Orb and Beacon and the rest passives as say FU to having a third skill. The most unreliable healing / targeting I’ve ever experienced.
I’m hoping that they will stop making spells randomly resolve on the ground. One of the main problems is when the game simply ignores that you have decided to click on “heal self” and your heal spell. So while you wait to see if the game has decided to do anything, you press the combo again and lo and behold, the game casts the spell on the ground.
It simply doesn’t make sense. There are a bunch of gameplay options for targeted healing and none of them are useful.
There should be an option that just automatically targets self as the initial target.
Also when you press down the heal button, it should initiate the targeting and when you let the key button up then it should cast. However, right now instead it does a counter intuitive press button, enters targeting and then PRESS BUTTON AGAIN (or mouse click) to cast it. WHY? Just cast the spell when you lift the key on the first press. Except sometimes when you try casting it on yourself (in no lag), when you self press and heal it does immediately cast. Casting the heal needs to be consistently a single or double press. Not occasionally one vs the other.
This has become one of the most frustrating things to deal with. I have died many of times in PvP now thinking, that if my single target heal has no target it’s supposed to heal myself. Instead it’s just healing the ground with no one standing there. Sometimes if you try to self target heal to quick (then it doesn’t work because of the self healing issues with the alternate HOLD to active key method) at least with no target it would still heal you, which is expected. Now it just heals the ground. PLEASE fix this and make all heals that are not targeted on a player automatically cast on the healer… It’s the biggest WASTE OF A HEAL and let down, which usually = DEATH, when your heal goes to the dust on the ground next to you… Please revert to old healing mechanism!! This update made it worse!!!
That would be a nice change tbf, but for now I just hope they fix the self heal button bug. I hear ya on pvp deaths cus o many times I held my self heal button and instead of going onto me, it goes onto a team mate back in narnia, or on the floor. At least when this was working, it was consistent and you didn’t need an auto feature like above. Nice QOL suggestion, but just hope they fix this bug first, scared they’ll break it again if they try to make changes.
Since the last update, a lot of things are bugged about targeting:
but healers are like 15% of the game community so we aren’t loud enough to get attention I am guessing, just gotta wait in queue for other game breaking bugs to get fixed first.
This is still a major issue for most (if not all) PvP healers as you usually only get a tiny window between all the CC spam on you to dodge and/or self-heal. It’s so frustrating to see it wasted on the ground because the self-heal input is so inconsistent.
As others have mentioned. The self-heal targetting button seems to work more if you sit and not do anything for about half a second before using it. However that half second is the difference between life and death.
The animation locking and the overlapping command sequencing of this game leaves a lot to be desired. I think they had ideas that they wanted to have people get locked into decisions (like pres a key and do the action and you have to wait for the action to complete), however with how hiccupy the system is, how it drops commands, how it lags, stutters, it just makes the controls in the game clunky, unresponsive and frustrating.
Take for example, heavy attacking in the game. You press and hold the mouse key. But often you’re pressing and holding the mouse key and nothing is happening because the game decides that when you started pressing the mouse key overlapped an animation so therefore it just ignores the command.
Character Name : Isoz
Ptolmais ( Old server name )
I am having this same issue , and it gets so frustrating.
Trying to quest tonight , and got killed 4 times in a row because self casting heals decided to cast somewhere on the ground , but not on me. Got me so frustrated that I logged out and came here to see if it was a known thing , and to see how far back it was an issue ( and has been an issue for me that long too , I am just finally fed up with it ), is disheartening.
This thread is from OCTOBER and I am STILL experiencing this exact same bug, every single day. It has been MONTHS!! When will this be addressed? This is literally game breaking when it happens. I’ve stopped doing any PVP because I cannot rely on my ability to quickly heal myself. Why the hell would a single target heal be able to be cast on the damn ground? It should target SOMEONE and I’m holding down the self-cast key, so WHY DOES IT HEAL THE GROUND???
The abilities this affects are not only Light’s Embrace, but Sacred Ground as well.