The #1 thing PvP needs to totally balance EVERYTHING!

I think it would actually create a lot of skill. We’re thinking about this in a war sense, it’s going to be messy regardless. I believe this solution allows more push’s, more action within a war.

In 2v2, 5v5, cool downs to triggers cause even more strategy imo.

You’re splitting hairs on the last sentence, I’m not saying “this is the best idea”, I’m making a blanket suggestion.

We just have to agree to disagree. I’ve played games where we have a remove shock mechanic. And if that thing were to ever trigger upon the very first stun you ever received. It would mean certain death. Players need the option to choose when to activate their remove shock state
(Like berserk)

I also played Aion on launch. It was personally, one of my least favorite MMO’s ever released.

I understand your point, and i love to see that mechanic of being able to break cc cuz it take skill to choose when is the right moment to use it.

Great games have implemented that and is a good thing.

But i feel this have no room in new world style combat cuz the way you “break” cc is dodging.

If you think about it, you can “break” most of cc just being fast to react to animations or moving in a good position.

That’s fine. On launch aion didn’t have a remove shock. So you never experienced it.

You cant break a cc by dodging whilst ccd. But you can surely try to dodge an incoming cc. Sure! That’s true.

Nah you walk on trap . You get to stand there and think about your Life.

Traps aren’t stuns.

Ok replace trap with stun , whatever smart a…
Point is no
You get stunned you deserve it.

So you’re wanting a blanket effect that removes only one effect that is only for a few weapon masteries?

U miss the part where I said, everyone gets this skill at some point while leveling? I encourage you to re read the post.

Basically an mmo but not the standard mmo. MMOs like New World are just too plagued with bots, RMT, exploiters as long as their is a market & in-game currency that can be traded. Only game I can think of handling it well is FF14 but their pvp is pretty underwhelming.

Elden Ring is an open world sandbox as much as Genshin Impact is; without the Microtransactions & gacha shit, but with perfected dark souls combat & pvp in the form of invading other people’s play through if their server is open.

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So its exactly like dark souls.

i dont really have prob with stuns/staggers u can easy avoid those but the root sucks u cant do shit looking at void gaunt atm :wink:

It’s from the creators of dark souls, trying out a new IP for open world multiplayer games. New World combat is basically a less fleshed out version of Dark Souls.

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Yes, that’d be a blanket, because it’s for “everyone”. To remove, one type of effect?

You had a conversation where this would be something for maybe, movement lock effects but if it’s only for stun, which is only from a set number of weapon masteries. From a game design standpoint I can’t see this being a thing. You’d have to include root, stun/dazes, knockbacks, etc.

But again, being given the choice when to use it, all it is at that point is a performance gate. Giving the attacker the choice still leaves uncertainty.

Stun in this game is so bad your own teammates can grief you after you painstakingly chased a rat runner and managed to land a stun on him just by light attacking him once and freeing him from the stun immediately. If anything, stun shouldn’t break on taking damage and runaway meta needs to be severely nerfed before cc removal options are even considered.

You have a good point. I didn’t consider this! Thank you!

I actually made a thread about this that got no comments. They call it a stun, it’s a daze. They need to re-word it.

That was one reason I suggested longer “stuns” with a trigger GCD if they are going to keep it a “daze”.

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I never realized it was a daze. All in all. The solution I tagged seems to be the best solution. For now.