Overall, I think the changes to Watermark becoming Expertise are good for the long term health of the game.
That is, IF our watermarks aren’t being reset to 500. There has been a post circulating of someone talking to a support rep that is saying watermarks will be reset.
That CANNOT happen. That is an unacceptable move that totally invalidates hundreds of hours of my (and many others’) time.
We need an official response stating very clearly that no, our watermarks are not being reset and are being directly copied over to the expertise system, as resetting them would be an insanely stupid thing to do that will lose them their dedicated player base.
If we do not get that, and our watermarks are reset, I will happily dispute the charge from this game, which will very likely nuke my Steam account, and then create a new Steam account and re-buy every game in my library other than this. It is worth it to me that the message is clear just how insanely unacceptable resetting our watermarks would be.
Final edit: Dev confirmed not being reset. Link below.
I’m on the same boat, i think the Expertise System could be good (as long as it increases the HWM by more than 1, my guess would be around 5) but resetting everyone to GS500 would be a tremendous Injustice to everyone who grinded for hours.
IF AGS does the reset … Well that would be my personal Last Nail to the coffin.
In the December update, Expertise will govern the highest drops you can get per slot, much like HWM did. But starting in early 2022, it will also govern the effectiveness of your gear. This means if your War Hammer Expertise is 520, and you equip a 550 Gear Score War Hammer, the weapon’s effective Gear Score will be reduced to 520.
What is the point of maxing your crafting skills and then wasting time and resources on high GS rolls? Crafted gear should be its own progression system for people who have no interest in doing zerg runs for watermark/expertise. Low pop servers cant even effectively grind the elite zones these days.
Yup. They erred on the side of the game being too easy and are now having to turn up the difficulty, which you cannot do without hard resetting the game OR making super unpopular changes that will lose your entire playerbase, which are effectively the same thing.
You always have to err on the side of things being too difficult, that way when you make things easier later, players are happy, not quitting.
Most of my watermarks are at 600. I am not grinding that stupid system a second time.
“We’ve seen this question pop up a lot since the post and to clarify, your HWM progression will not be reset and any HWM you had earned will be converted to Expertise. Thanks for your feedback so far!”
So people that decided to not smash their way to 60 and get easy gear are now going to be punished? Some people will be running around in 600 gear that they easily got (especially relative to the new system). Why is this not being done as a compromise of setting the 600 players to 550 for example.
Personally I see a fairly straight forward process now being stupidly complicated and will now wreck crafting (thanks for the hours I put into that but still missing the people that got to 200 before the nerf).
Sorry but all the recent changes are taking an exciting and enjoyable game that I have been so involved in and you are just making it so much worse.
Will this now be the same that I will need to be PVP to get the luck in combination with this new change? Remember this game was PVP and was going to fail really badly, it got changed to PVE/PVP but now you are rebalancing this to make us play PVP, well I can assure you now that I dont play this game to be PVP and I will not be doing that. I would also suspect there are a large proportion of players that will also leave if you pander to the teenage griefers.
Reluctantly I am teetering on the edge of forgetting all the hours I have invested in this game, which will be a shame.
You dont get it at all soda.
I smashed my way for wm , among with crafting too, but this change would screw us all.
Next patch will timegate everything in the game , you really think that this daily tick box simulator would hurt only people that were behind watermark?
Already the proper endgame the dungeons are both timegated and expensive as hell.Now they made it even worst, crafting was already in bad position and they make it even worst.
No they did not make it worse, they simply killed crafting completely! There is not a single reason left to craft any kind of armour or weapon after that change. Voidbent for example was pretty good starting gear until you were able to get better gs 600 drops but now that it only has gs 600 when you already get gs 600 drops it’s completely pointless to craft that grindy shit!
How does this work if someone paid 90k for 600 gear? Are they 600 in the new watermark or did they waste that massive amount of gold?
“I smashed my way for wm , among with crafting too, but this change would screw us all.”
Come on, it wasnt hard to go on elite chest runs etc. Crafting was simple to get to 200. It was said by lots of us that the game was way too easy during Beta’s to the degree that it was thought they were boosting the xp in Beta and the real deal would be a lot slower (which it wasnt at all)
How the hell are you people “fine” with AGS literally MAKING YOU REGRIND GEAR YOU ALREADY GRINDED FOR (Crafting, Namely JEWELRY as you cant farm them!)
Because they’re not? That’s what this whole post is about. Your watermark progression will be converted to expertise. All my armor is watermarked at 600, as are most of my weapons. To be clear, most of my equipped gear is not 600, just my watermarks are 600. After the conversion to Expertise, not much changes for me.
The only thing that will be impacted for me is jewelry. Literally nothing else.