no way in hell its the same, you can do w/e you want while gathering/skining/mining/loging/harvesting hard to explain it there is a feeling of freedom even tho you are on the hamster wheel.
but your gear is now scaled to your opponents gear in PVP. So this change has no effect on PVP.
But what if I also chose to do PvE content like my build works just aswell for expeditions. So I’m screwed over if I want to do the new expeditions 
this is also bad a 300GS item with good perks will be scaled down compared to a 500-600GS with bad perks
this update is terrible tbh
It really hasn’t been well thought out
They incorporated new ways to get you WM guaranteed by obtaining Gypsum which can be obtain by doing OPR as well as other things or did you just post without reading the PTR notes? Also your gear now scales with your WM so as you obtain these Gypsum and steady raise your WM so will your gear that you are wearing you act like all the gear you obtain is for naught, and even if you scale down your only losing like 5/10 stats total if all you do is pvp you’d hardly notice a difference and it’s not like pvp is a optimal stage right now half the mods don’t even work as intended or work at all.
Of course I read the PTR notes I’m a creator for the game its sort of necessary for me to do this to have constructive conversations with the audience. The fact of the matter is I will be forced to grind regardless if I want to do expeditions with my friends now. PvP I accept I’ll still be relatively OK but PvE it’s going to take considerable time to catch up when at present there is no catch up needed. With my current gear I can do all content perfectly fine. Now with this update my PvE content will take a large hit all because I have favoured the PvP aspect of the game.
The changes killed the game as a PVE-game for me, so don’t get the idea, this is somehow an effort to make the game more PVE-oriented!!
just another useles system on top of a working system,why?
there is no need for this
Imagine playing an MMORPG for PVP only and not for PVE 
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It would have been fine if they started with it instead of changing to it. In a month or two it will be normal again. I am looking forward to the changes. It makes it more rewarding to do all forms of content instead of just opening chests. I’m sorry you are upset by it, I am OK with AGS making you earn your gear. It makes sense from the way they want the game to be.
I’m pretty sure it’s upto 7 a day
It is by design that every move they have made has increased the grind…
I am just waiting for the “pay to play/win” options they are clearly paving the road for…
mark my words
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How much do you think you’ll be forced to grind for expeditions?
I mean, currently Genesis and Laz are OVERtuned and my company has managed to do it with a collective gear score of about 550. I believe I was 551 at the time - with 4 Faction pieces of gear and using the legendary quest line great axe and hatchet.
So expeditions shouldn’t be that big a hurdle for you to do.
You can still earn the new gypsum from doing pvp and crafting so you dont have to do pve IF you dont want. From my point of view I have maxxed all water marks I have maxxed enginering crafted gear and also done alot of pvp. And I still think this is kind of ok, ofc crafters Will get shafted a bit but the new mechanics Will also benefit them more than non crafters. I like the new changes and think new players Will have a better time since they wont have to do The grind I did. Stop beeing so negative untill this comes, and be glad this was not stealth patched.
How is rundning arround spamming Light attack with ga any different?
why would anyone be glad to be shafted?
yikes
Lolllol return for what? The next huge nerf? These devs are morons. Literally every patch is how to fuck over the dwindling fan base…just unreal the amount of piss poor decisions these guys make again and again.
Some May have gotten shafted a bit but still the wm Will now rize by 5 point instead of 1-5 points. But you still get good ways to increase your wm eaven IF you are a crafter or pure pvp. I just said be glad they are giving us info instead of stelth patching it in without info. And IF your looking at the patch from a new players perspective this is a good patch. And I think AGS have given up on the early whiny players anyway so trying to get some new fresh ones are not a bad thing. I still think a game like this is supposed to Be played with all content not just a singel one, just look at all other mmos… You get more rewarded the wider you spread your time played. Saying this I still think there are major issues with the game that needs to Be dealth with before intruducing new mechanics…
The devs listened to the outcry from the community and in the end did the right thing. All I can say is thankyou you have restored my hope in you and most likely many other players. Our alternative way of grinding our preferred content won’t have been for nothing and we can then catch up fairly 
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