The Reason you *Don't* Want Fresh Servers

The problem is you can’t control it, you cant report it, they cant get banned because there is no proof. So I’d rather live with it and play with them, than come here and cry on forums like a whiner and stay miserable for 8 months.
That make sense?

A very small part of the population visits these forums. How many folks bought this game that are currently not playing? And why did they quit? Is it unreasonable to think that with all the improvements already implemented, and improvements coming with BSS, that they could get a small percentage to come back?

Hint, 100k mention in first sentence = small percentage.

Again, i am a dreamer. Where do you get your metrics from?

That doesn’t equate to the numbers you’re pulling from thin air, then using those to justify your responses. Also AGS said its a “widely asked for” feature, so how is it widely asked if not more than 40-50 unique people are commenting or opening posts

I never wrote any metric for anything.

Why don’t you ask AGS this? And forgive me for using examples. I forget some folks are just bitter in general. I have not been collecting data on who posts what, but you have. So that is your metric then i guess. I was only going by what AGS said “widely asked for”.

You counted the posters, came up with a number between 40 and 50, and equaled that to widely aske for. How much time did that take? I been sleeping for 8 hours.

There is a difference between being jaded about a problem persisting and condoning it. Calling cheating “normal gameplay” is condoning it.
And I would still argue your priorities are totally out of whack. If people admitted they RMT’ed to me I’d insta report them. Maybe AGS would do something maybe not, but at least I would have tried. You instead consider it more important to spend your time trying to prevent Fresh servers. Because that’s really what matters… Others being able to play on fresh servers.

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Sure, but dont use false numbers.

I have not been either, you can just use js in console to compute unique users in a thread after burning through lazyload.

The people who commented on this and other threads of equivalent target discussion added together are at best 40-50.

idk 5 minutes?
you just compute all unique values here
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Bruv, your last comment before this post was in November 2021
Lets not tell me how to enjoy/play the game

I am not that salty to report someone for that, Not am i salty enough to not play the game if i feel RMT was killing it. Its against the TOS, I get it. If they get banned, they deserve it. But why would i as a player concentrate on what others are doing and not have my fun with the game.
This is essentially your argument, “I’d waste my time so others waste their time and make a new alt while this process continues”

If a dev is working on something you want, a person who hasn’t been on the forums since nov 2021 (not sure if you havent played or just havent posted). I think that should be reason enough for me and other players who have played since forever to raise our voices against it and put it in a general discussion forum.
If you agree, your comment is not worth writing.
If you don’t, you think returning players are not as worth as current players.

The only persons arrogant enough to tell others how to enjoy/play the game are the anti fresh crowd… And how is stating you condone telling you how to enjoy/play the game?
And oh good, the elitism is back.

Now you need to be salty to report cheating? I would have considered the normal thing to do. But than again I don’t consider cheating normal gameplay.

Not posting =/= not visiting.
But hey, it’s good to know you’re not salty enough to report cheating but are salty enough to moan about something that won’t affect you in anyway. You can rephrase it all you want in the end that’s what it boils down to.

And let me counter your elitism of “I have played through the entire time so my voice is worth more”: you have shown AGS you are willing to eat all their shit by sticking around. Why should they care about your opinion when they know you’ll just take it like a good boy. You know you won’t quit over fresh servers, so why should they care?

How is that even remotely relevant to the quote. You want devs to spend time on a feature for people who aren’t even playing the game since a year?

You need to be salty for reporting them more than once when they just verbally tell you they did RMT. I am not going to waste my time on a system that can’t work because its not realisitc, just because i am angry people are using shortcuts to get ahead while I get ahead the legitimate way. I can’t do anything about it, so after 1 report if they dont get banned I will play my game.

1 year is a long time, I’d say not posting or visiting the forums means you didnt play. I am not going to ask you to post your playtime as evidence, But i can make an educated guess that you haven’t played the game.

When the voice means devs spending less time on a needed feature for the playerbase, and spend time catering to players who left and are gonna leave again, I think i am entitled to it.

LOL, I actually enjoyed the game. Ever considered that? You’re essentially equivocating anyone who stayed to just be “eating shit” in your words. Nice job dude, I am done arguing with a :clown_face: who basically tells people that they are “eating shit” when they play a game and enjoy it.

I am actually going to report you. Enjoy the vacation once a Mod actually sees this. Last person was Ceriks to get kicked off this thread, next will be you with this rhetoric.

Ah yes, the miniscule amount of time needed to release a server with a feature turned off rather than on. Meanwhile you don’t care one bit about people RMT’ing, think about how much time they cost to AGS. Banning bots, opening servers because bots are filling them, going through appeals, etc.
Stop pretending that’s the actual reason. If everyone would have to complain every time dev time is spent on something they don’t care about this would be a cesspool.

Not only are you a toxic but at the same time oversensitive? “Taking it like a good boy” just means you won’t do anything about it. I am not sure what’s offensive about that, but than again, I have a skin.

Anyway, i’d laugh at getting banned over being reported by someone who helps cheaters.

And sure you enjoyed the game (despite the massive issues), that’s exactly the point. You won’t ever leave for something as futile as fresh servers, so why would they ever care ? There are people who will actually not join if there are no fresh servers released.

Well, we know more than 950k that bought the game are currently not playing - some estimates have this number well over 5 million, but ags wont tell .

Most players dont even post on these forums.

I would say my guess is better than your guess.

I didn’t guess, just because you dont understand how javascript works and how chrome’s console work doesn’t mean i am 'guessing. I computed those numbers, There were 43 unique people on this thread 2 days ago.
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as for 950k members and 5 million people buying the game, your assumption is they are all coming back but can’t make 1 comment in a post?
45 out of 5 million people?
Please blaspheme somewhere else.

First it was on the numerous threads, now it is just this one. Also, most folks dont post on these forums, in case you didnt know, especially those that, you know, bought the game but don’t currently play it. Nice java script though. I bet that makes you feel something special? lol

I think they will release fresh start servers in november/december, after all the leveling and territory control revamps are done. If they do an advertising campaign, along with the hated content creators, i think they will get a good turnout on both regular and fresh start servers judging from what i seen on ptr. Not sure why you are so against this, but keep posting your java scripts bud, they are neat and i am extremely impressed.

I can check all the other (2) threads, but it seems to me you are still going to put snide remarks and waste my time instead of making something valid. This one had the highest count so i pasted that number. But please, go on make remarks just to troll people and waste time.

I never wasted your time, you did that yourself.

cheers

No, it’s not good for YOU, for the rest of us, we actually do want a fresh server start with no transfers possible. Here’s the difference between rerolling a new character and starting on a fresh server, you are surrounded by people who have the same interests as you, the gear you drop has value and can be sold to a couple thousand players, the auction house isn’t filled with every single item in the game with prices so low due to a countless number of people undercutting each other, fresh server = fresh market = fun.

Just the fact that everyone starting with you will have the same interests as you is enough to want this to happen. When you start on an old server, almost everyone is maxed out, they won’t want to do dungeons, or lowbie pvp, or anything, they have everything already. New players will want to do what other new players are doing, old characters won’t.

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Preach Brøther PREACH!!! :raised_hands: :clap: :raised_hands: :clap: :heart_hands: :fire:

Town boards were way faster than questing or doing trade skills.

“People don’t value BIS grinding.”

It’s not necessarily about other players being finished; they want people to level with; they want people to be as excited about leveling as they are (potentially infinitely); and they want everyone to be where they are.

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What is really the point of this cringe post, Karen ?
If you do not want fresh start, good for you.
But I do not understand why do you feel entitled to judge anyone.
Very stupid bait.

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These numbers do seem fabricated - Is there a source? @Germzy