The time for talk is over, it's time to choose

Then go play it.

Man, that’s so nostalgic… Too bad GW2 graphics are so outdated. Was hard playing years ago, even harder now. And I already finished the goals I had in that game. After many thousands of hours in pvp doing the same, it dulls me.

NW Devs needed to play GW2 to implement a good PvP environment. But it seems we might not see something like that for many years to come…

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I guess then the choice going forward, will be either Good Gameplay or High Graphic Fidelity.

Nah, there’s Runscape. But I can’t stand the graphics, not even drunk.

And there’s BDO. But I can’t stand its monetization.

No, what many of us spoiled mmo players want is a balance: Acceptable graphics AND gameplay. I mean, didn’t many of us stayed in NW grinding the same thing for months? And we played even with the broken aspects and exploiters…

I loved Lost Ark but the fixed Camera was a huge turn-off for me. And then there was the monetization which is literally worse than BDO. Or was… Hard to find the right mmo…

Which has completely improved the F2Per QoL.

  • Two standardized PvP modes
  • Massive amount of catchup mechanics
  • RNG gear progression is almost gone from BDO
  • A 2 week old 550 GS account is going to make about 400 mil/hour. While a min maxed 750 GS account is making about 600 mil/hour.
  • They hand out cash shop progression items quite a bit

I went from being super critical about BDO about 12 months ago. To now praising their changes since then. To be honest a F2Per can get way further in BDO than they can in New World on average without any help in a 3 month period.

You told me. like 3 times already. And I even told you about my friend that went homeless cuz of bdo. And I know of several people that say the exact same thing as you almost every day, yet they are spending $400+ a month. While saying I don’t NEED to spend money in bdo anymore -__-

Until I hear you don’t have to spend ‘Rents’ in that game to reach endgame anymore, my trust in that company is literally negative. Meaning, I will always distrust first. No matter what its said.

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Lol

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So then you are against any of the popular Western subscription MMOs? We’ll sorry to say, but all you are going to get is shitty B2P MMOs. That do nothing to improve their game. Close the MMO and reuse that MMO assets in the remake under a different name.

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Hmmm Thing is, for one reason or the other, the west has been terrible at making mmos outside WoW/GW2. Have you noticed? I mean, greedy as they are, Koreans are Kings at Mmos yet their greed is what destroys them.

Well, the greed of western publishers too but…korean games are developed around monetization itself so…

You can tell a lot of people feel stuck like us. That’s why many got hyped for NW and Ashes.

Well, it seems Ashes is getting more serious lately, so they might deliver a decent game. But I don’t see enough talent to deliver a ‘next gen’ mmo. But unlike NW, they don’t seem to be restricted by engine, unqualified personnel, or a rigid creative vision. I have hopes, at least. Think I lost it for nw…

WvW game design in GW2 was just max zergs running around the map, OPR game design elements are better because it requires split tacfics to win

Then why is the queues for OPR over 90 minutes if it’s better? Why does WvW in GW2 have so much more demand and interest if it’s worst?

This is kinda like saying FFXIV is a inferior MMO to New World. Just saying is all. But I respect your opinion, no matter how few share in it.

I enjoyed GW2, but NW combat just hits different.

Shame that almost everything else in NW is questionable.

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GW2 was made to be accessible to casual players thats why they did away with the holy trinity and gave every character self survival, its easy to make groups with no class preferences for the content. But WvW is just a massive zerg fest, split tactics dont gain anything over a zerg because of continuous speed buffs, and for a year after release mesmer teleporting was infinite for ganking zerg v zerg

I got 1200 plus and kinda left this week just a broken :broken_heart: and game. Feel going to wait for Nightengale

Starfield is right on the corner

Nah, not going back to GW2 either, I played to many years and a thief, they never managed to get balance right either. there was a time were it was very close to perfect, It was acceptable balance, everyone was happy, 3 months later they managed to screw it up real good to the point that balance went from great, to the worst it had ever been.

That was wen I quit and promised myself never to touch it again.

GW2 is neat, I just don’t want to pony up like 100$ for all the expansion content and side stuff at this point.

Maybe the inkling will hit me later, but for now I’d rather just play Return of Reckoning to scratch my PVP itch.

Wars probably compares more to WvW than 3v3 arena.

And something to keep in mind is how exclusionary wars are compared to WvW.

I think 3v3 probably compares better to GW1 and Random Arenas (4v4 random queue), Team Arenas (4v4 organized), Hall of Heroes (8v8 tournament to hold the hall of heroes, you lose, you’re out and have to restart) and Guild vs Guild (8v8 first to kill the guild lord NPC in enemy base wins).

GW1 had people from all over to match against each other. No server lock so you could always find a team or an opponent.

Edit - one more thing I want to add is how easy it is to get “good enough” gear in GW1 and GW2. The same is not true in New World.

I choose option 3: the pve-only life. It’s bliss.

GW2 on all fronts, and as I played GW2 also when it launched, at least for myself I can say that these two games already during their launches were worlds apart. GW2 was not perfect when it got rolled out, no game ever will be, but it was already a far more complete game off the bat, and it has gone from strength to strength through the years. I had high hopes for New World, and clearly the graphics are far superior, but everything else is totally half baked, and New World has felt nothing but a let down for me.

I left New World end of February and returned to GW2. Every now and then I look at the forums here, not really expecting to find things have improved, but just in case. At the rate things seem to be going, maybe in 2 years, if the game survives. I don’t see anything right now, I believe will draw players back, but who knows, maybe they will still magically turn it around.

I got no issues with GW2 balance. I run a fun niche build in WvW, I am not into the big zergs, but always find fun entertainment, and as a pvx player, GW2 offers an incredible amount of quality pve as well, and did so right from its start. It’s a different league compared to New World, it really is not even fair to compare an experienced studio like ArenaNet with the New World team. Maybe eventually New World will catch up, but after 8 months already, it’s not looking encouraging to me and I won’t touch New World again any time soon.

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