The Umbral Shard Issue

Not sure why this isn’t more of a hot topic. I have so many friends who would like to log in and do some OPR, join a company do some wars and even don’t mind doing a bit PvE. But they feel locked out of doing this due to being forced to do dungeons to aquire shards, but then you need WARD gear per dungeon (which requires shards) to get into the higher mutations.

Why are people that just want to enjoy PvP forced into this tedious dungeon, ward gear shard aquisition system AGS?

Why can’t they just do OPR and obtain a decent amount of shards, 500 for a loss 800 for a win for example?

Increase coin reward from dungeons if you feel the need to incentivise them more, don’t literally force PvP’ers into doing PvE content.

You are seriously harming your game with this mindset.

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I agree. I don’t do mutations mostly because I play mage and people don’t want mage generally so I just avoid. I don’t really like mutations anyways. My umbrals all come from gypsum, I do 13+5 infused orbs every day. It used to be easy to get 620 but they had to go and change that around for some dumb reason. Now it’s a real pita to try a new build out. Other then that I mostly just OPR and 3v3.

I hate it. Please more umbral outside of mutations.

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We’ve been calling for that for a long time already, I don’t think they will change anything related to umbrals anytime soon.

People will say: but you can get shards from gypsum. Yes you can, but 90% of gypsum is obtained by pve content.

People will say: but you can get them from the reward track. Yes you can, but the chances are super low and the amount you can get too

You can’t progress in this game if you want to pvp only sadly, you can’t even get the new heartrunes without doing quests and running dungeons.

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I don’t even mind doing a bit of PvE tbh, it’s the fact you need to farm what at least 70k shards for full ward + bane gear, make sure you have 70k shards for next weeks ward + bane gear, this is of course assuming you have 625 jewellery.

All this before you even think about getting a 625 PvP set. It’s madness.

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Yea I also enjoy some pve, but only gathering and the new glyph chest runs/sarcophagus runs in brimstone, because I’m a crafter to get the scarabs. I just don’t like the repetitive boring dungeon grinds for the exact reason you mentioned. Don’t wanna bother getting 10diffrent gears with ward and resistance etc.

I grinded the dungeons already after release to get important drops I needed for my character and get expertise up, since then I’ve never entered a dungeon again until the new heartrunes came out and I had to run laz again. And that is still my only rune I’ve got since I can’t be bothered running all the other dungeons just for the runes lol, still got hopes they will add a way to get them without going into dungeons.

I definitely don’t mind doing the PVE for gypsums. I start my day every day getting Obsidian/Topaz/Emerald/Diamond while I’m working. It’s relaxing and pretty easy. Then when I get off work I do the 2 dungeons, 3v3’s and OPR’s. Buy the faction ones and the infused parts. I don’t mind any of this. It’s just painfully slow to get PVP gear to a competitive level since they changed the umbral scaling with Brimstone. I wish they just left it alone. I was pretty happy being able to quickly 620 gear and slowly work on bringing it up from there.

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You dont need do dangeon for shard, i am 625 and i use only gypsum cast to get shard

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Agree man.
I’m so tired of the stupid mutation system that I don’t even want to login anymore. I ran 3x m10’s this week and I just don’t wanna do this shit. I rather just play OPR, but I feel at a disadvantage so I only play 1 loadout with 620 gear in pvp now.
People can say what they want, but NW numbers are weird.
I saw the yt videos on the dummies showing the small difference between 600 and 625. But when you get blasted by 5ranged users and have 4meeles around. Those 50-60dmg make just a MASSIVE difference overall. And I go from being top 1-3 on my 620+ gears to 30-38 on my 600.

It’s not fun, I won’t ever get any gear up by playing pvp. And I’m tired of pulling another ward set up to run content I don’t want to.
So for me it’s likely just deinstall in a week or two, pretty sad cuz I really enjoy the pvp

And to poffkaa above me.
Literally what the f
I’ve like 6 pvp combos I like to play. Let’s say I want 4 pvp sets.
This would take me around 12months of playing EVERY DAY for like 2-3hours.

Stop it man, it’s just a shit system to waste time for barely any reward

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In fact you do not need a full warded gear, if you know the mechanics well enough. First grind to open up to M10 was without ward gear for most of us. But in random groups its mostly expected to minimize possible failures due to less experienced players. So either gear up to join a good group or start a group yourself without the necessity for ward gear. That is just how it works. I mean you would not expect PVEer without any necessary PVP perks to be picked for wars etc. Gear up to be selected or start your own group. Please stop asking to make the game even easier

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Just open gypsum casts … I dont care about mutation also… Once you do 625 gear you can focus only around : 4 casts for pvp daily opr+ arenas + 2 from fraction shop and 1 diamond its 2,8k shards… if you are not buying new pvp gear everyday its enough your gear… + for sure you do some side pve activities dont tell me you not … chest runs for artifacts+ scarabs+ glyphs dunno… Now I have 80k shards and I dont know what to do with them …

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Ye i rather just deinstall than get 2-3k shards a day for playing 2h when I need around 400k for 4sets.
That’s just me tho. For you this might be fine

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Maybe if you must have it fast… I have been playing only for pvp oprs and arenas so I just had maxed few gears… for mage, bruiser, healer, bow… before I first time went for mutation… and company mates boosted me to m10… since that I have never been there again … I dont care 600-625 is not a big deal anyway… I have not seen problems in pvp.

Maybe because 620 was costing NOTHING pre patch? Like you can’t cheat the numbers.
If you ENJOY pvp. And you play for 5hours EVERY SINGLE DAY. You will likely need around 2months to get a single set to max.
So ok, we get it. You’re cool.

In MY PERSONAL OPINION. That is too slow.

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Not sure if you’ve done dungeons this week but they’ve increased the difficulty compared to when mutations first came out. making ward gear even more valuable now.

Not to mention there’s only ever max 2.5k players online, new world doesn’t have the luxury of making groups with a pool of millions of players like wow.

You can spend a large portion of your time looking for a group only to fail.

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Ohh they changed it then ok … have not checked yea I remember 600-620 it was like nothing …

Not everyone has company mates to boost them to M10.

Hell they could do something so simple by adding daily “Quests” in OPR.

Example: Kill 5 players = 1000 Umbral shard reward.

Add 2 or 3 of those in a day and it would at least make the Umbral shard grind one step closer to being bearable. Right now its a disaster and I personally think its a massive issue as to why people might stop playing.

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I probably wont ever stop saying this - Ward perk needs to be consolidated into one perk for all PvE content (Raiders Perk, Expedition Perk… 5% res to all PvE content, something like that) OR stripped off completely, added behind the scenes to all gear WITHOUT a PvP only perk on it.

Its ridiculous to ask people to maintain and upgrade so many sets - its a POOR excuse for an endgame.

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Sadly they are just diving deeper into this system, all proud of a “set management system” in the works.

I just dont how they can have raids which are going to be the most challenging thing in the game, then drop a piece of gear that you can only use in one or two expeditions(maybe some that arent even on the mutated rotation for the week). Its going to make a lot of people just quit the game.

Thats not a case how I got umbra shards. I already had 625 GS 4 gears before I first tome went for M1… before it I was doing only regular genesis for 2 gypsums…