Yes they are both p2w, AGS allows RMT to take place, they should create new policy, and give everyone 30 days then start cracking down on it. I know it’s tough for them to prove, but something should be done. They probably can track the amounts of gold certain players are trading, like if an individual keeps trading large sums of gold to random players for free, probably a gold seller… etc.
Is exactly that… paying for something you don’t know how to do or are too lazy/busy to do it yourself…
My IRL buddy quit after the first dupes and returned for Brimstone. Every time I mention I might quit he offers to transfer to my server and buy all my gold and gear for real $. I just asked him what he would use it for…
Thats no valid argument O.o… Its against the ToS, its cheating… Geez… I dont like, that “buying shards” is a thing. Still, its not p2w. Thats a fact…
In every game you can buy “stuff” for real money. Ppl push you, play for you, give you ingame stuff for that and so on.
That doesnt make that games p2w…
Swiping your credit card to get in games that give your character anything besides cosmetic is pay to win. You can try to justify it however you want, doesn’t change the fact loads of p2w happens in new world.
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Can you answer my question? Is every MMORPG pay to win? Should AGS just sell coins in-game for real money and it would not make any difference?
Yes new world is p2w. I bought this game on sale for 19,99€. Pretty expensive, i really can’t argue about it 
Indeed New World might be P2W game… but only to those that don’t want to stain their pride by doing PvE content. And those who play entire game, both PvE and PvP there is no need for them to buy shards nor gold
I haven’t played every mmo to be able to answer your question, I have played a handful, the big popular ones except ff14. Bdo is 100 percent pay to win. Gw2, you can buy in game currency and use it to get gold, 100 bucks can get you like 1000 gold in gw2, but the ranked arena pvp is all scaled, everyone is all the same even if you were level 2, it scales you up. only thing that matters is your build. So your gear is irrelevant, your gold you spent is irrelevant, everyone has the access to the same thing except a certain stat selection locked behind expansions, but you can. Get buy without it. You could techinally use the gold to get gear, but it’s not really a straight trade, gold for gear, there is more involved. Some people say gw2 is pay to win because you have to pay for the expansion to get the new classes. Wow is similar but all the gear is obtained through raids or pvp as far as I know. I don’t know too much about wow to talk about it. But In new world you can simply swipe your credit card and go buy bis extremely easy.
Yes it’s completely irrational to believe just because cheats can work the system again at terms of service that it is p2w. Every game with in game currency used to buy gear is p2w then according to that thought process. It’s such a stretch it ridiculous.
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In WoW you can buy tokens for real money which you can sell for in-game gold. Its absolutely legal, you can buy it directly from Blizzard. You can use that in-game gold to buy various boosts in either PvP or PvE. You can also get into raids where you can buy drops for in-game money. The more you pay the more items you can get.
For you it doesn´t matter if people cheat, bypass TOS and illegaly buy in-game currency OR buy in-game currency legally from game developer itself?
What exactly do you think AGS can do about illegal RMT? How to prevent it? Because no MMORPG has been able to prevent it so far …
I’ve been saying that for many months now.
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People just have completely different ideas of what constitutes pay to win, as I outlined in detail a few posts above. The two groups are never going to agree as they define the term differently.
You can say whatever you want to justify your opinion. Swiping your credit card to get cold to buy weapons and gear, this is the definition of pay to win. It happens all the time on every server.
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But the question is, does gold directly contribute to “winning”?
Stop putting words in my
Mouth, I say all the time cheaters and exploiters should be punished, I have said for months that AGS needs to do something about RMT. The only reason wow did what they did, was because there is no real good way to prove rmt. So they did the token, to 1 make money from it and 2 to be able to start cracking down on rmt. But even then it probably doesn’t stop it. Idk how hardcore wow cracks down on rmt, I know gw2, they take it t very seriously. Which is what I played for years.
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By your definition of P2W BDO is not P2W since you can either spend $150,000 to get endgame gear in 2 weeks or spend about 1,500 in game hours grinding for that gear.
- You can’t call Lost Ark P2W because of your logic either.
- You can’t call WoW P2W.
- You can’t call ArcheAge P2W.
- You can’t call Blade and Soul P2W
All of those games also have a non-cash shop way to get progression.
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That’s the definition of RMT not P2W.
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You are paying for items that can giving you an advantage in pvp. How or big small is up to the individual, but it’s still pay to win. You’re paying for items that can help you win in pvp.
Then every game with an in-game currency is p2w. . Either a game doesn’t have in game currency, or it’s pay to win by your irrational definition of p2w.
It’s like saying major sports endorse the use of steroids because there are some people that use them and get past the system.
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