Good point!
Actually they changed it because high-level PVP players were ganking new players almost exclusively.
2 Likes
It’s because you’ll get harassed by people who like camping corpses. Cutting off PVP helps with doing PVE content. That pretty much sums it up.
1 Like
there should be a hardcore character mode for you godly l33t pvp gamer warlords
when u die once in pvp ur character gets deleted
that will show the real pros from the noobs
lets goooo
1 Like
Just make separate pve-only servers for those who enjoy fighting mobs and RP’ing, and let the rest enjoy PvP
This game would be completely dead if it was PvP only.
1 Like
Yeah sure 
See its very easy…
Give people choice and they choose what is more fun.
Therefore PvP is consensual.
If it is fun, more people choose to partake.
The Problem with PvP i See are:
Balancing and metas.
Exploits
Itembased, so who grinds more has huge Advantage, so all casuals wont ever be good in PvP.
And If you are disadvantaged and lose to often, you dont have fun and choose not to partake.
Make PvP fun, fair, balanced and more people will PvP and enjoy it.
If you want people to do something and make it good you want them to want to do that and not force them to do that.
1 Like
Exactly. I get my PVP fix in actual PVP games. Games of skill like FPSes and fighting games, not gear/level-dependent rpgs that give 12 year olds and no-lifers an edge because they can dedicate much more time to the game than casuals.
1 Like
they also gotta change luck gear for mining etc…
cant be that u collect with a full Strength Gear as an Rapier user for example
As much as I honor your opinion it is unfortunately wrong from the basic assumption - this is NOT a pvp game - PvP is just a snap-on addition to cater for audience interested in the game - core of the game (as well as community playing it) is PvP oriented. So sorry, but no forced PvP flagging.
Disclaimer: I love this game, I want this game to succeed, long time follower, much time player, bla-bla-bla and yada-yada
The game would be exactly like it was in the alpha; a handful of toxic scrubs chasing everyone else out of the game.
Which is literally exactly what happened in the alpha.
There will be no always-on PvP. Suck it up.
1 Like
agree on this and want to add:
the sweatlords want item and grindbased PvP equip, i started arguing for OPR they may level everyone same strength to have a fair match on an even playingfield, but MMORPG crowd want a
“effort=reward” meritocracy system for PvP, so PvP only fun for sweats grinding their ass off to get that 0,2% advantage.
and people who say skill is more important just lie.
2 players of same playerskill and one has here 0,2% and there 0,2% and this mitigates 0,2 better etc. who do you think will win. It matters and people who play the most dont need boni from gear as they are anyway the players with most experience and practice.
So they have more practive and better gear.
The competition here is more about who plays the most than who has better skill.
Thats a special take of PvP in MMORPG’s.
For most PvP games people are alle on an even playing field and have fair starting conditions.
MMORPGS want you to grind hard and to be quick, thats why every “serious” PvPer rushes to 60 and then starts rushing and hc grinding Gear to push Gearscore.
Anyone played Mortal Online? or MO2 - PvPers there meet to train PvP to get better, they dont meet at myrkgard to do farmruns.
That is the difference between good PvP and this.
And i dont say this is completely bad, but nobody with a brain and some experience should expect someone to compete seriously in a MMORPG with itembased PvP, except some sweats and hardcore gamers who like that of course.
Most dont like it oherwise they would partake!
1 Like
No it’s not, and if you did that you would lose players and the game would completely die because not everyone wants to pvp all the time, go play a full pvp game if you don’t like the fact it’s pve based like the dev’s have already stated xD
2 Likes
I remember this same tired argument over 20 years ago with Ultima online. PVPers just don’t like it when PVEers have fun and need to ruin it whenever they can. I’d have no problem giving PVPers their own server. Might be just enough to fill one or 2 servers.
2 Likes
Actually there should be no option to turn on pvp… Have you ever thought about that? So I payed same amount as anyone else here for this game, so I’m entitled to have fun the way I like not “your way”.
1 Like
And drop the requirement level and allow 50+ to join, and give them exp for actually doing something in the game.
MMOs are philosophically built for PvE, with PvP generally inserted as a side-mode.
And that’s because it’s impossible to balance for PvP when you give people character customization options.
Instead of complaining about the entire game , why not just petition for pvp servers instead both pvp and pve players deserve their right to have fun in the game you do not need to out one for the other.
2 Likes
This topic was automatically closed 30 days after the last reply. New replies are no longer allowed.