@HagenZ if it took you less than 4 months of full work weeks grinding to craft that gear. Then you are one of the few, who was lucky to get RNG carried.
It did not take me less than 4 months. Why should it? This game is meant to be played for years, not days.
If anything it goes way too fast to get best gear.
@HagenZ Then your PvP scene becomes too exclusive, and only the geared play it. Because everyone else is fodder. So they stay far away, or quit the game. Hench, why there are servers. Where people beg people to queue up for PvP modes.
You people have to choose between a healthy inclusive PvP scene. Or are elitist grinder PvP scene that is barren. Koreans learnt this lesson and so have the other successful Western Devs teams. This is basic elementary.
If you dont take away from the progress that players put in im fine with that. Do you have an Idea how to include letting progress not go to waste and be including both?
I disadgree. This is why you play an MMO instead of a shooter.
Because putting in more work makes you stronger.
Else there is nothing left of an MMO. Could just play any shooter instead.
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Preach Brother. But People are fully against that. I also play MMORPGs cause of the Progress and the journey to get stronger and dominate more people.
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@HagenZ If this is true. Then why are all of the vertical PvE gear based PvP MMOs struggling with player count. While the ones that offer inclusive or equalized PvP modes go on to hold the lion share of MMO fans.
Anyways, enjoy the decline!
Ok we getting there: Modes. Im fine with an Equalized Arena mode. But first which MMORPGs are you talking about? Gimme 5
ESO accessible No-CP battlegrounds.
GW2 completely equalized PvP and Ranked PvP arenas.
Lost Ark completely equalized Ranked PvP modes.
BDOās T1 Node Wars. And as of two days ago, new completely equalized Arena of Solarie.
Meanwhile New World, ArcheAge, Eve Online, Bless Online/Unleashed, and all the rest of the vertical PvE gear based progression PvP MMOs. Have little playerbase or close to nill PvP interest in them.
No interest in PvP in New World and in Eve Online?
I totally disagree. New World has mostly PvP players and Eve is all about PvP. If you are not in nullsec(or low) or a wormhole you dont even play the game
Else I can get behind ranked modes and battlegrounds (at least some) can be equalized.
But in Open World and āsomeā modes the gear should matter.
ESOs PvP is terrible unbalanced.
GW2 is fine but low playerbase compared to how good the game is due to no progression
Lost Ark is a PvE Game itself so i dont count that one
BDO? Brotherman i have more than 10k Hours in BDO and no you will never be able to compete even in T1 Nodewars. Havent tried the 3v3 arena yet
ArcheAge has the best owPvP period and died cause of P2W
Bless was changed so much i didnt even resemble the game anymore.
Eve Online has the biggest PvP scene in any game and is 20 years old
Those arguments are pretty weak
@HagenZ Most people said that Open World and Wars should be gear reliant. Most of the gone people pleaded to get at least one form of equalized PvP mode. So, they can have some fun in PvP. While they get geared to be a factor in the big league PvP. However, they was complete shot down by others.
Please reread what I said. And donāt try to twist my words.
I dont try to twist your words.
And yes, I can agree to that. There should be equalized PvP modes.
Where even low levels can play and it wont matter.
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ESO have more competitive builds and playstyles than New World has weapon sets.
GW2 have a massive following. And all of itās PvP scenes have little to no queue 24/7/365.
Lost Ark has a much bigger PvP following than New World. Again close to no queue around the clock.
I can start a completely new account in BDO for at most $10. And be competitive for T1 Node Wars within 20 t0 40 hours of gameplay.
Completely equalized, everybody gets the same choices of gear combos. The only con for 3v3 in BDO is class balance. Which was just addressed by the Devs yesterday. That they are going to improve balance quicky.
So as someone who is highly experienced in Eve Online. Most of the current Eve Online players are multiboxing 2 or more accounts in PvP. There are people in Eve Online that have over 10 accounts to themselves. So while on paper Eve Online might look populated. It actually have less unique players than New World.
New World is ArcheAge 3.0 minus the P2W. Following the same path as the first ArcheAge did.
So Iām going to have to disagree with you on these. Mind you on my server in New World. Outside of the 4 hours of prime time. OPR queues are over 90 minutes and 3v3 queues are over 15 minutes.
OK now i know youre a Troll. Have fun discussing your 0 knowledge takes. Hace a nice day
@Juergen T1 Node Wars are cap below max seasonal gear. This season I was full PEN Tuvala on the 2nd day. With less than 10 hours total grind. And you talk about me having 0 knowledge. SMH 
I have 3.
So you have maxed skillpoints, all crystals and full gear in 10h youre lying. And in Tuvala youre getting 1 shot stop talking lmao. Last reply btw youre not worth the time
@Juergen , The FOTM classes in T1 donāt need more than 1400 SPs. Since BDO Devs adding in so many catch up mechanics to that game. Including being able to make upwards to 300 Million silver an hour with only Seasonal gear. You can easily afford that well under the 20 hour mark of that characterās lifetime.
Again, if you want to argue in bad faith out of ignorance. Thatās on you, but Iām going to expose you for it.
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