I think this is a great idea.
I have a feeling that AGS will sell the game to another company, and this new company will revamp it and people will come back
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They might as well sell the game to a legit company that gets it. They already cashed in on the initial sale.
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MMOs normally don’t get sold to become healthy again. Normally MMOs become extremely officially P2W once sold off. While your hopium tells one thing. Concrete history of MMOs that decline to be sold says the complete opposite. With Microsoft being the exception not the rule. If Amazon sells New World to either Gameforge, Nexon, Kakao Games, or Daybreak Game Company, or any like those. Then New World be changed, however those changes will make the aggressive monetization model become the whole of the game. Which will alienate most of the current player base.
All I’m saying is, be very careful what you ask for here. Because it might actually come true. And it will be much worse than it is now. You people do not want New World to get sold to an MMO graveyard.
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NW is bringing in peanuts now, and definitely not enough to cover developer wages.
They need to go free to play and have a cash shop. Subscriptions will not work.
The problem with F2P, is that it will not work with the game as is now, because the same reasons why 99% have left, still remains.
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This is where I start to disagree. If NW goes free to play, it will get filled in by Bots to the brim, servers will fill with Bots and players won’t be able to log in stuck in Queues like in Lost Ark, and they can’t afford more servers etc…
A cash shop will sour even more of the remaining players that hate p2w and they don’t sell cosmetics anyway. They are horrible.
At first, the free players might surpass the ones leaving due to discontent but I reckon gradually after, even free players will leave due to the current problems as you mention.
Basically, NW Devs are in a Bind. The only way they turn this around is getting better at their Job. And perhaps with a decent Leader that has ‘some’ mmo experience.
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At this point I think a panel is one of their only hopes here. A strong leader might do it, but a leader and a panel of people with actual experience with this game and with other titles all providing analyses would be even better.
I think it gets understated just how ‘far behind’ they are, and while the distance isn’t irreconcilable, I do think it’s going to take a more targeted kind of intervention.
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And let us not forget.
AGS needs to confess to the undisclosed conflict of interest they perpetrated on 100,000’s of paying customers, and apologizes for it, and put it in writing that this will never happen again.
And they need to do this before they try to bring more paying customers into the mess that NW has become, because of their bad manners and bad business practices, where all paying customers were NOT treated equally.
They could make the game free to anyone with Amazon prime. It might attract more players and limit bots.
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If you think people are making multiple millions of coin for each set without indirectly P2W on RMT sites or from EF and WW town holders. Then I got a bridge to sell you for Crpyto.
Two good perk gear for PvP cost over 50,000 coin per a piece. Do the math on much gold people are making without RMT or settlement supplements.
The only difference between New World and Arche Age at the moment. Is it 100% legal in ArcheAge. Where in New World at any point the devs can pull your account.
More like 250k coin per piece now and Im on a casual server.
At my server price are between 400k and 1.5kk for good light armor item. I sold a week ago pants for 360k Those amounts are not possible to get without having extremaly big luck in crafting or drop. The only way to get full bis top perks set is to buy coins for real money as a lot of people doing. Slowly a lot of people will get those sets, but if the game is changing so fast you are not able to adjust fast enough just with crafting things, or drop them. It simply takes time, but with real money you can adjust to changes in a few days and get adventage of changes.
Please be more specific.
I thought I had been, but sure.
When the game was released, AGS told us that if we didn’t want to bother with PvP, all we had to do was NOT flag up. This led folks to the belief that the only folks that were going to be affected by all the pvp stuff, would be the pvp folks themselves, which is as it should be.
Unfortunately, what AGS failed to disclose, was that the economy was stacked against the non-pvp players (and cast majority of the paying customer playerbase) right from the beginning of the game, what with all the gold confiscation methods inflicted on all players, except those that were both pvp players, and territory owners. Technically, one could make a silly argument that even those lucky few were paying these fees, but with the excess gold left over, they were getting far more than they put in, so…
AGS wanted folks to think that they were going to be able to play NW without being bothered by the hot mess that is PVP, and this would mean a level playing field, and where all paying customers were going to be treated equally, regardless of which playstyle they preferred for their own personal enjoyment.
Unfortunately, AGS choose not to disclose the facts about the games CORE Mechanics, which clearly and undeniably favor the pvp playstyle over the pve playstyle, despite what they had done to make people think that this would not be the case. How many folks, that have no interest in pvp whatsoever, would have bought this game, had they been told the truth about the discriminatory bias at launch and later added on, where pve folks (and paying customers, mind you), were going to be denied a level playing field, and simple equality? I most certainly would not have purchased this game had that garbage been made clear, but AGS wanted the money from a large audience (far more than obtainable from a strictly pvp paying customer base), and so they chose to perpetrate an undisclosed conflict of interest, where they wanted to release a product where a tiny minority of paying customers were going to be rewarded for playing the game a certain way, while everyone else was going to be discriminated against.
I’m not a lawyer, so I don’t know for sure what laws AGS has broken with this nonsense, but I’m not wanting to see AGS getting dragged into court and sued too oblivion, but rather, to come clean, man up, put it in writing, and then get on with giving all of us non-pvp minded paying customers the game we thought we were buying 9 months ago, where we can create characters on servers without any pvp content, and whos economy is completely separate from the servers where pvp is allowed. This is the only way to make things right, and keep in mind, that for all of us that have been waiting for this, have so far not gotten to play even a single day in New World, without any pvp advantages over us taking place.
So AGS, man up, admit your willful wrong doing, both for the discrimination and the fact that your didn’t disclose it before folks bought NW, and put it in writing, that no such things will ever happen again.
Pretty simple and clear cut, no?
I remember the game being marketed as a PvP game, especially earlier on. I’m not trying to argue with you. I’m just saying I don’t think your argument would work in court for the aforementioned reason.
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And I remember, that by the time I became aware of NW, it was then being marketed as a game where you could choose to play either PvP or PvE, and that was just before I bought this game on October 8th, 2021.
Originally, yes the game was going to be a pvp game, but then they redesigned it and (falsely) claimed it was both. And when they made that claim, that is what allows for folks to be angry with their duplicity.
Either make a game that can be played in either playstyle, equally and without bias, or admit that you are secretly hoping to defraud every paying customer that has no interest in pvp.
You would have to prove that they did this with the intention of never following through. If that is the case, sure.
If they had a goal that was too big for the staff they had so they made mistakes and muffed it up, well I guess an apology would feel nice but it wouldnt be meaningful cause they wont mean it.
I think New Worlds issues are far more related to scope of project vs staffing but thats just my opinion.
Yes and no, they supposedly redesigned the game, so that paying customers would be able to play and enjoy it no matter which playstyle they personally enjoy. If the product that you bring to market is (falsely) claimed to be ready to be purchased and enjoyed, in either playstyle, then the burden is on the software developer, not the paying customers. No one forced AGS to release the game when and in the condition that they did. If the game was NOT ready for paying customers to be able to play in a non-pvp way, then at the very least, they would have had to clearly state that the PvE side was still under construction, and was coming soon.
In 9 months, not one word has been released on when the promise of being able to play the game without pvp discrimination will end, and folks will, at long last, be able to play the game without such.
But keep in mind, all this assumes that this actually has to goto court, as opposed to the folks at fault, just admitting what they did, and making good on their promise, of a game that can be played, on equal footing, regardless of a paying customers playstyle choice.
As to this, they were not forced to mislabel the game as they did, so that is all on them. If they put it in writing, and all the unprofessional bias that we have so far seen, is going to stop, then I’m willing to let bygones be bygones, once I finally get the game I paid for, which is quite different than what they provided.
I hear ya, but have to respectively disagree.
The game was released (and marketed as) a game that could be played using either playstyle, with the presumption that all paying customers are going to be treated equally.
Given the totally biased and lopsided game upon release (and which, I must point out, it has gotten even more biased since then), I have to think that they knew what they were doing, and thought that they could just get away with it.
Like I said, I’m not looking for AGS to get sued into bankruptcy, I just want them to get the non-pvp version out, so I can finally start playing the game I bought (and they advertised), as opposed to this mess where pvp paying customers are clearly rewarded, while the pve paying customers are left out.
Great Video. Lots of laughs.
The sad fact is that the current development team does not have what it takes to turn the game around. They just don’t have the requisite skill set. They don’t even have the capacity to remove a level 60 farming bot that has been reported by multiple players over and over again.
Face it, if reading a bot report and then confirming that report it is to much for them to handle, then how could they ever fix a more complex problem?
They simply lack ability. And when lack of ability comes in contact with reality you get this result.
Most the pvp only guys I played with never had gold. It was always the pve farmers with the big bank roll.