I think you overestimate how much duping was done, and that it still effects the economies of legacy servers. With M10s being run constantly and people getting near BiS gear frequently as drops! money is fairly easy to be made. 1 reg genesis run will net you about 1500 gold just from mob kills alone, players can easily grind this and amass 10k gold of of just mob kills in 1 day. Now think if a few of those players buy items from 1 guy, lets say an essential item like Regen potions. The crafter of the regen potions now has 100k gold just from grinding some resources. Now after a few days he takes 200k and buys serveral items off the AH, Now 4 people have 50k gold. This repeats for months until a large potion of the playerbase has at least reached 50k gold at some time or another.
Of course this means good gear is going to inflate in price, Demand drives prices up.
Gold being duped has very little influence on these factors.
No one is preventing them from playing on the RTA servers, their work is safe. The issue is the vast majority of people that went on RTA were there just to âhang outâ with their favorite streamers, this was a natural progression and one that could be seen a mile away
Yeah but what possible reason is there for not allowing RTA players to transfer to other Fresh Starts Now and just closing the RTA servers? Like, what would it harm? Just makes no sense to leave them stranded.
NO TRANSFERS OF EXISTING CHARACTERS INTO FRESH START SERVERS - this is the hard and fast rule
For ANY Fresh Start world you can ONLY TRANSFER OUT
So when people ask to Transfer from RTA to another Fresh Start they are basically asking for the first rule to be broken.
So noâŚ
EDIT: AGS has said that RTA are Fresh Start Servers now, so it might be that they allow people from RTA or other Fresh Start Servers to transfer in at a later date** (not confirmed, but it looks like they are backtracking a bit and might allow it)
I donât see how any of what you posted is âunclear.â
Fresh Start servers are fresh start servers. That includes the RTA servers. You cannot transfer off of them at this time. When you can, it will ONLY be to legacy servers. They are likely not to allow FSS-FSS transfers because, at some point, they will merge FSS servers. AFTER that, they may allow transfers between FSS servers, but I cannot imagine why. This was made clear from Day 1 - that any character you made as a result of a streamer invite could continue on this server, but not necessarily go anywhere else for a long time unless merges happen. How is any of that unclear?
I am amazed you can thank them on the one hand, and cover them with shit with the other. Without the people who played on RTA no one would have gotten any of the drops. Now no one gives a fuck about them and wants them to get fucked by not merging those servers? Why?
What am I not understanding about this? Why is it so controversial to just merge the RTA servers with other fresh starts?
I donât even think AGS has an ideological problem merging them, they are just incompetent when it comes to scheduling server merges, and have been since launch. Servers will peak at barely a few hundred players for over a month before they take action. I mean why merge servers before people get frustrated and quit? How is that going to help tank the gameâs population?
This post is kinda as if youâre make one and say
âGlad legacy servers are dying, they never said they will merge any of them so stop crying and accept the slow declineâ.
Itâs just bait to rub it in.
No matter if the information was available or not. At the moment the situation on those servers isnât great, which should be enough to take action or at least communicate about potential plans.
Just cause you say something doesnât mean it canât be changed when things go south.
People on this forum just hate streamers and anything related that gives this game any positive publicity. Itâs pretty much the most ungrateful and toxic community in any mmorpg.
AGS is caught in the catch-22 of previously stating in October, as mentioned above, no transfers onto FSSâs. Until they change that wording/stance, they canât address the RTA people that are playing.
To me, it seems like most RTA players were âmisledâ about how RTA would work or didnât bother to research the publicly available information, prior to rolling an RTA character and then performing a public service of enabling drops for the masses. Or at least thatâs how most of these threads read. Why this opt-in public service they performed entitles them to special treatment, with regards to RTA-FSS transfers to FSS, is not exactly clear to me.
Should AGS quickly address the dead RTA serve issues, by either enabling transfers or unlocking the RTA servers? Yes. Do RTA players deserve special treatment? No.
Yea I kinda agree. It doesnât even have to be special treatment.
They could merge lowest fss serv with an RTA one for example. And even then those numbers still wouldnât hit even close to 2k total on peaktimes. At least youâd reach 300players during nonpeaktimes like this lol
But then you obviously have the chance to upset another group of people, those who like empty servers and farm. Those who invested into towns and upkeep. Those who might lose their territory. Those who hate that pvp could now be a thing in their pve world.
Thereâs solutions, but communication is key. At least give players something to look forward to.
Or just say how it is. âRta is over and we wonât merge or allow any transfers between them whatsoever, so just move onâ. Just have the decency to at least communicate
Well I wouldnât call providing a basic community to play the game with âcharityâ, but rather a responsibility of their part if they want to actually retain players.
It doesnât matter in the end if itâs the players fault. What matters is if people keep quitting for, in my opinion, very preventable reasons.
AGS didnât learn this lesson last year, when legacy died down from 410k avg to just 13k avg players. I donât have much hope now either for those that did RTA.
I made a character on an RTA server when it went public and before the event ended. I just wanted the exclusive title youâd get after hitting level 40. But it doesnât look like I got one, or did anyone get it? Idk
Truly spoken with the arrogance of someone who has never had to spend time on a server with no t5 stations and no queue pops, let alone when it happens literally 2 days into CREATING YOUR CHARACTER!
