I’d think that somewhere in a 400 reply thread about how they destroyed open world pvp by randomly choosing to NERF EVERY SINGLE OPEN WORLD PVP MISSION, they could have found some substance to reply to.
Like that thread on the main page now, which sits waiting for a response.
I know a bunch of people gave solid suggestions there that could have been read, addressed or even “taken to the devs”.
And yet… they did not.
Yeah that thread in particular has been frustrating. I think this thread is talking about the likelihood of getting a response and when a post starts with some good substance it generally leads to better discussion and feedback. Not that you cannot get anything from the less productive style either.
There has been times AGS has not addressed some of the good posts, and if you go through my post history, you will see I have also called on them to take more feedback from the community.
I am focused on trying to help people get some of their posts seen when they may feel like it should. Usually the issue is the post itself and not their feelings about it.
I also thought I would find some useful tips here, but I just found confrontations to create controversy and more criticism with correlations than feedback on how people post.
I do agree that posts should be more constructive, and such posts, DO exist, I have made them myself without receiving a single reply or like. BUT such is the nature of the forums to pursue controversy. Hence why this post, that literally offered almost nothing, is more popular that lists of ideas and solutions provided to the Devs, which they totally and completely ignore.
Sadly, only by piggyback on popular controversial posts, we can get our ideas to Devs AND debate such ideas and refine them. Most people here don’t care about ideas or solutions.
And also, the forums could be structured better to filter feedback and prioritize what matters most to most people. Like Polls and sub-sections to problem reports etc…
I actually didn’t mind the more “difficult” or “grindy” experience of new world when it first came out, but it is apparent that gamers do not want that anymore. The developers have to make life easier and not harder. They probably have to buff things instead of nerfing things. I don’t exactly agree with it, but I think it’s the reality AGS needs to accept. Every time they do an update they need to ask themselves will this time gate content moreor make life more difficult for players? If so, they shouldn’t do it. Otherwise, thousands of people will quit playing like they did when they nerfed GC quests last week.
100% agree
Bump so edit can be seen. Devs are starting to say similar things to what I said in this post.
Remember, they are people too and while we struggle with our feelings about the game, this is their day to day life.
They should maybe keep a similar thought in mind:
Steam says I spent 64 hours on this game in the past two weeks, and I doubt Im the most tryhard guy out there. That’s more than a part time job and in doing so I’m making sure they still have their jobs. Once the community is gone, there’s no need for it to be managed.
A lot of us are loudly unhappy because this IS our day to day as well, and we’re in it suffering the negative results of nerf-heavy changes that just keep rolling in. We have no recourse but to make angry posts about it. Had sensible posts worked, we would still be trying those.
They just have to deal with loudmouths on a forum and toss the occasional good suggestion up the line to someone who might or might not read and deal with it. They have power to affect change, and we don’t.
If the loudmouths get out of line they can get rid of them.
If my game is full of bugs and nerfs, I can’t go ban the problems.
You may be right but gotta remember that they are also gonna feel feelings when stuff is said certain ways.
Don’t get me wrong. you can criticize the game. My point was and is when people attack them while doing it, it will make them want to not even read the post.
How you express your feelings is in your control. Don’t let the lizard brain rule you. You are not the Lizard King.
But we do need hippos
Absolutely, was happy to hear that the devs actually gave sat around and considered it at a meeting. Genuinely hoping they fit well into Brimstone Sands in an oasis or something.
I can see some corrupted hippos in our future.
Bump for the culture
But the game is dying, it’s undeniable. No game can outstand time with so few players. In entire South America servers there not even 2k people playing.
Bro, new world has the same ammount of people playing of Ragnarok. If this is not an indication of a massive failure I don’t know what is.
They will never manage to get the players who left to come back, otherwise they would have done it already. This game can last for what, 3, 4, 5 years? but eventually it will become unsustainable.
But if you wan’t to delude yourself, then by all means, who am I to stop you? xD
Thats just my opinion, a beta player who fealt utterly betrayed and laughed at when this game “launched”.
Ok…
So how does that apply to getting feedback read by the devs rather than ignored cause people are attacking them?
You say that like People haven’t done it in the past. Hell, People like Halcyon Made post full of feedback since October 2021, and it has been largely go unanswered until May of this year.
When people feel like talking to a brick wall when they give feedback, or the New world devs twist people’s words to make things worst, Or hell, Listen to the wrong set of feedback from a twitch streamer because he got owned by a low level. Of course people are going to attack the devs. Just look at the GS Open world pvp changes. Majority hated it, but the devs never reverse the changes.
Sorry, if I don’t have complete fate in AGS. But they haven’t exactly proven to listen to us, or give us solution to problems without some kind of catch.
What feedback have they outright ignored?
Unfortunately i have to agree with their lack of reply to some really good feedback here. Some of the best writeups i have ever seen from halycon and mixednuts have gone unanswered with thousands of posts. And only recently did they even get a post in them, and it was shadow fox posting just for the sake of having orange letters in it. ( I know she meant well)
As much as i die hard for AGS this is a definite area that needs improvement, in not only replies but engagement, real meaningful engagement and some transparency that i think even i crave.
On the flipside, they DID shadowfix the game working on linux after a huuuuuuuuuuge writup on what it would take to make the game work on linux, and a technical writeup on exactly which boxes to tick to make it work. There was never a single reply from a dev or CM in that post the entire time, but they still fixed it.
So 
Yeah. We all want transparency.
But the spirit of this post is about not being a jerk on the forums as it doesnt really provide much in the way of getting anything actually done.
I have had my issues with the forums in the past and have felt like they are not listening. Look at my pve roadmap post I bumped for almost two months.
They have gotten better here lately which prompted this post initally. We need to focus on the issues and let the past go. or quit.
I definitely agree. They need quality feedback, and taking potshots and just doomsaying and rehashing everything that’s happened in the past is not helping. It’s hurting.
Just looking in the forums can be a miserable experience, and it’s almost like a thing now. Hating on AGS and new world is like a meme. And i don’t like it, it hurts mah heart :c