I dont need compensation, but i did hear that dupers didnt get perma banned just a day or a week and when they did get to play again they did have all the duped gold/items still on the account hope thats not true.
Anyway i dont need compensation more then you perma ban the dupers/cheaters
Thanks
Stensaxpannk
“We” means people agreeing with me, so if you are not ‘we’, dont reply to this thread lol…
I mean, i dont understand what is the problem to have compensations … Shit happen, so they compensate the shit happening… i dont even understand how you would refuse a compensation, since it affect your game time.
Anyway, cheers.
I dont care about compensation of any ingame currency for many reasons, but mostly because player driven economy is not going to work the way most of the players assume. Playing the trading post is not for supply and demand, but for buying up and reselling at a higher price. Linking all trading posts makes this even easier. Those who have more money than the average can manipulate the trading post and suck out more money than you could do with taxes on the individual player. Im astonished at the low level of players doing this, but in just a few minutes of buying and reselling the very same item in the same town, you can increase your investment by a factor of 5 to 10. Not economy, not gambling, not investment. Its stupidity.
But I do care about a game that can be played without suffering from all to many bugs like this.
At this point AGS should implement a god mode interface and allow legitimate players to spawn any items and gold as they wish. That is the only way to compensate legitimate players for how their complete mess of a code allowed ilegitimate players to completely dominate this game.
I just created a topic with a concrete suggestion of compensation:
Since AGS is incapable of (a) preventing exploits or (b) banning the exploiters, it’s the only way they can be fair to legitimate players.
Compensations wont fix the game
The problem with the exploits, especially on dupes, is that it diminishes to the ground the legit players accomplish. On my server, I don’t know anymore who has a full set of Voidbent and a big bag of gold coins legitimately. Who farmed the watermark, professions and everything else legitimately.
Compensation will not fix it in any manner. I play the game and still do my daily farm, but do not trust anymore in any other players accomplish.
The item/gold spawner (god mode menu) I suggested is a fix and a compensation at the same time.
With it, exploiters would lose their advantage and players would finally be on the same level. It will also absolutely and completely rid the game of exploiters since they wouldn’t have any more reasons to exploit.
I dare you find a problem (related to item/gold duplication exploits) my suggestion wouldn’t actually fix.
“AGS should compensate (legitimate) players by implementing a god mode menu - an item and gold spawner - so they can just create any items or amount of gold they desire whenever they want and with no risk of getting penalized .”
So you ask AGS to give us unlimited ressources such as golds and items ? am i understanding right ? if so, this idea is completely dumb, it will break any value of items in market + any gold value, + any GAME value… if i understand right what you said, this is nothing about a fix but a game breaker idea.
What they need to do is ban PERMABAN people exploiting and give us compensations AFTER they banned them, so we get back what was lost (at least a bit) during the bug fix,
double reward events double loot / golds / XP / azoth etc, or compensate directly with an amount of golds depending on the time needing to fix and ban them.
It’s more of a rethorical suggestion that is supposed to induce reflection.
What do you think about the exploits and the unbanned exploiters retaining all of the duplicated wealth in the game?
Now would you rather prefer only they get access to unlimited resources? Since AGS can’t seem to deal with that, wouldn’t it be fairer if all legitimate players had access to such unlimited resorces instead?
And that is exactly what is NOT happening. Exploiters are getting temporary suspensions and retaining their exploited wealth.
I’ll refer you to this comment of mine to shine further light on the current situation: GMs are unbanning players who duped - #11 by Meireles
I’ll also invite you to comment on my item/gold spawner topic so the idea can be discussed and attention can be drawn to the situation. AGS won’t act on anything unless it goes viral.
No, they CAN deal with them, they WILL, you need to give time, and being patient, giving unlimited ressources is pointless, its an MMO, not an arcade game …
I’m not sure whether to envy your hopefulness or pity your naiveness.
Item and gold duplicators are coming back to the game, being unbanned by AGS, and retaining all of their exploited wealth. You are playing with and against people who have access to the “arcade” unlimited resources.
I’m not sure about you, but that is not fun at all to me.
You’re someone who understands very little about game development.
Well, if you dont trust on people you are ‘working’ with, in this case, its AGS team, then just leave the game. I trust on them. They work the game really hard and have quick reactions to bug exploits. They already worked on gold sellers with reducing golds early + delete golds in fish boxes, etc etc, i follow their work, its good hope. I think they will do something against that, game is realeased 1 month ago, nearly 2 now, its nothing, i played games with 10 years old full of bugs and exploits and gold sellers, i still had fun, play for your fun, dont look at others.
All of those problems are there since the betas. They keep treating the game like an alpha release. This is not acceptable. Balance problems are OK. Item and gold duplication exploits running rampant and banned exploiters getting unbanned aren’t OK.
thats why they made PTR, to test new things, to not have to realease things on main server as it was a beta server. They improve, i trust on them.
You know the PTR relies on the same data as the live servers did?
Players to find out bugs and report them, like it was already done on the live servers?
And the very same bugs being in the game for years, despite being reported in early beta?
All it currently does is trying to appease to call for a PTR so players feeld the new patch is better than without a PTR phase in between.
But what most players do on PTRs is generally find the next thing to exploit after the patch has gone live.
I am 3 weeks without my three houses, and trophies for crafting, I pumped out jewelry 3 weeks ago, I wanted to earn gold, where is my compensation ??? and where are my houses ???
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