To be fair, ESO was hot garbage when it released.
But ESO recovered as they had devs who fixed the issues. Time will tell of NW can recover as well the devs need to get in gear and dole out bug fixes on the reg.
ESO had to change a lot of calculations from client side to server side to deal with cheat engine and has been fighting lag ever since in Cyrodiil. They have made some unpopular changes to try and improve performance. Some they have changed back others they kept or continue to mess with.
The latest was the introduction of a new set that was suppose to deal with ball groups but had unintended consequences. That set was changed in the update today so some of the PvP crowd will probably trickle back in to give it another try.
It really is to bad they haven’t been able to reel in the lag and performance issues because the combat is really great when it is working. Much more fluid and faster than here. Combat here is really clunky compared to how Cyrodiil used to be.
Basically if performance were improved Cyrodill would have full campaigns again. People liked the play style.
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The PVP in ESO is the only reason why I won’t go back to it. I miss everything else though and I have to agree about the care ESO receives. If they could fix the PVP, especially the siege, I would run back in a heartbeat <3
Cyro is the most fun I have ever had, until everyone gets booted in the middle and the heat of the battle. Then get booted over and over again while its going on. Its like giving a baby its favorite candy and yanking it away just as soon as they closed their eyes in pure and utter enjoyment, lol
I played ESO since day one as well as New world. No one would have claimed ESO’s dev team cared about the game or players with how bug ridden that game was at launch. Comparing an established game that went through its own saga of problems for years to a game less then 2 months old isn’t really a fair comparison unless you compare them equally.
same, even with 230+ latency lore is alright, I think PVE wise its in a much better state I wish it had NW’s combat system tho, I def miss the low ping 
They clearly had no idea on direction between PVE and PVP with the current state of the game. With the amount of bugs and issues they need to get back to the drawing board, this is clearly a better PVP game stick with it sort it out and perhaps fix the PVE side of things when adding additional content in the new year.
The dupes hit New World harder, though. Solely because the way their economy is designed to work. A player run, player driven economy with no NPC vendors needs way more stability and a much higher player base. Otherwise it fades very quickly.
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It’s also on the higher ups who ran things. Amazon literally released a third of the workforce during covid drama, individuals who were helping develop New World. That shows in the product we got.
Hands down, if the mmo genre playerbase wasn’t so starved for a NEW MMO, New World would have faded away like most of the Korean import ones do. The game is simply just ok. Add in the crazy amount of issues they’re having and the fact they literally possess the same amount of content that APB did when it launched, and that ‘OK’ quickly degrades into ‘bad’ territory.
It’s Amazon so I’d bet a lot of the team were working on H1B visas which explains the terrible coding as well. Last company I worked for did that too and broke stuff on our apps/website often as a result.
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if you think NW at its current state is in a better spot, you’re delusional
If you’re going to compare a new release with an 8 year old game having 20 expansions, you’re delusional.
lol, ESO’s pvp is soo bad you can’t even play it, the lag is awful.
Idk why people post stuff like this “come say goodbye to me and hear my last word” and tbh I didn’t even read that bullsht long paragraph
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No doubt, and then there’s the animation cancelling, the ball group exploitation, it goes on and on.
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animation canceling is fine, ball groups/lag/desync broke the game
But yet took enough time to respond in a thread that you apparently don’t see the reasoning behind it…ironic?
This is an open forum to a game I PAID my money for. If I want to post long winded paragraphs about vacating the game for a time…I can. You don’t like it…don’t click on it. No one is asking you to read anything. This isn’t rocket science.
THis game will be better 6 years after launch than ESO is now. That’s coming from 800+ CP ESO player.
LOL good luck, in ESO skills take 5 tries to go off. Its a theme park MMO, overland is so easy you can kill everything while day dreaming. Housing is impressive. PVP is absymally laggy and has been for years, frequent Qs/Crashes/postion desyncs etc. No pvp content has been added in over 3 years.
Cp 2015 here.
I’d recommend trying out Albion Online rather than going back to ESO.
Nah, it’s an exploit. Always. ESO admitted as much early on, but when they couldn’t fix it they just acted like its legit.