Off topic rogue what? This is on-topic showing that ranged CAN BE KILLED AND ITS NOT THAT HARD as melee
Everyone out here acting like “Oh no, musket player shoot me 100m away I can’t do anything! NERF IT!”
Then I slap on a video, run up to that musket guy and decimate him in SECONDS.
You run up to musket guy who is borred to stay away and stack ME. And why wouldnt he
Actually, yeah. Nearly every opr game on olympus - most of the winning team facerolls most of the other team for about 10 minutes following the mid push.
Why? Because half the losing team just leaves asap when they take their first death and realize theyre behind. Its infuriating as someone who doesnt run mortal emp and doesnt think that your stats are screwed because you died once.
It was the same way on valhalla and them (when it was the sUpEr sErVeR) as far as i remember it.
Its why posting an opr where you play light melee with a premade into randoms as proof of anything is disingenuous.
Its also why i asked if anyone (OTHER THAN YOU) was convinced GS was OP by that and nobody said “yes”
He wouldn’t be able to stack ME if he has nobody to shoot because he’s staying too far away now is he? 
So those players leave because they can’t take an L? Sounds super casual and incompetent goddamn.
The good players we have here would come right back after dying and fight their way through like strong men.
As melee mains, why would they ever admit to it being OP? So it can get nerfed? Yeah nah, they’ll never admit to it. Disingenuous players at best
Me? I’m convinced Melee is OP this patch,
Muskets? I’m convinced 100% that it’s OP when you have 15 stacks of Mortal empowerment (that’s admitting to FACTS right there) but outside Mortal empowerment? Not even close (literally showed how easy it is to kill a musket in the video and there’s nothing stronger than having evidence to back it up)
And how exactly can you prove that it was a premade v.s randoms? You can’t, you can’t tell if they’re a stacked premade getting face-rolled by another premade because you aren’t there. You’re just watching and giving your comments on how you can best defend melee weapons despite being shown how extremely strong it is.
Wtf you are on?
Eh.
Instead of “Good” players I’d say competent players. Average, Decent, Good can more or less drop a musket player. It doesn’t have to be a 1v1 thing either. A support Healer or Tank can lock down a musket for the murder melee’s too. It’s all a matter of perspective. Something the nerf culture ppl just can’t commit to.
If people really wanted to have discussion on balance, there’d be more talk about solutions & reworks, other opinions about the weapons that isn’t chalked down to basic “IT KILLS ME NERF IT” logic.
Such as:
The weapons themselves excel in multiple things and aren’t unique.
The one and only opr map we have is poorly done
The scoring system is biased
The reward system is redundant
Good players, hell even decent players aren’t going to sit and watch a musket generate mortal empowerment stacks and or will be on point while the KDA junkie is not resulting in the usual manor. A bad player, well how many nerf weapon (X) posts do we have a week?
Lol 
Welcome back to the forum bloodbath Zyrex
He all the time mention good players good players. As one guy said above. Good players dont play this game and the players playing this game just embarrassing themself for defending broken op weapon.
If we talk about broken under the concept of “Too Strong” we’ll be in an eternal loop as it only takes 1 to claim “OP” for the cycle to repeat itself.
If we talk about broken under the concept of “Strength/Weakness” then we can discuss the weapons as a whole rather than “I died, Nerf it” logic to then conversation actually go somewhere.
Good players don’t play this game
I would simply disagree to said one guy. Being good is just a by product of practice.
Gamers Game.
Casuals Game
Hardcores Game
“Bad” is a byproduct of people who do not want to practice and rather have it given. Can’t be humble in defeat, and will blame everything and anything instead of self reflectance.
Competent players adapt in whatever game they are playing. “Good” players simply adapt faster. Defending weapons from people who otherwise refuse to use game mechanics should simply be discussion. Neither of which matter of course in this particular game’s PvP content as its all over the place with no actual structure and as the forum is about as structured as a cage match.
I think on Reddit it’s Bruisers again so there’s ya answer, hoss.
36 kill in a premade in OPR does not show how OP greatsword is.
that should be minimun #s as u in a premade stomping other team.
Even before the BS patch i played SNS/Spear for few weeks and i constnatly got these #s in OPR by solo queing.
ANd i do the same with SNS/GS after patch as well, both with 2 perk gears and weapon.
from my experience, there is nothing too OP about GS except trent recovery and rentless freedom.
yes, it dmg is high, but thats 15% more dmg trade off from 15% selfrend.
if u nerf the dmg by 15% then no point to play GS at all.
By broken mean that it taking advantage of other buff things. Like ME,Attunment,runeglass gem and glasscannon build without to be much of challenge from other builds.
By good players mean you can’t claim to be good if you defend a broken weapon. Be good when no one want to play that weapon cuz is not meta and is not op. Than we can talk. Cant say that is good players but stay away click heads and not use dodge ot stamina management under all action around you and slow stuns and crap.
Now we’re getting into very silly things.
If a player is good in a video game. It does not mean they must have the same opinion as others. That is silly otherwise.
Or people want to have actual discussion about balance.
Or people want to sit and have a shouting match over what “I” “you” think is unfair.
No in between.
Mr educated. I am saying what i am saying. You like it or not.My main weapon was musket claping 35kills+ WHEN NO ONE WAS PLAYING MUSKET. That mean i am good? Yeah i have good aim achiving higher rank on everyfps competitive game. BUT i dont want to clap head staying on the fort. Its Borring and i dont feel the game as i should/want. So Mr. Educated its nothing silly when the shity weapon got a buff by so manythings and turned everysingle one to playit to have false sense of humour to be good. Its not beign good making kills with op broken weapon. Where were all this “Good players” when Musket was shit and there wasnt all other buffs that Musket enjoying. Also i dont understand you.
Yes thank you for posting high scores with melee weapons which proves my point: MELEE WEAPONS ARE OP this patch. Thank you
We’ll keep asking them the same question: “Do you bleed?” Me: You definitely will in these forums.
Musket is still extremely broken wow lol. What is the balancing team doing? Look at this damage numbers on very well equipped players with an easy to play hitscan weapon in an mmorpg KEKW.
You want a solution to your boredom? Switch OFF the weapon, and use something ELSE. Just because you don’t like sitting 100m away doesn’t make the weapon broken. The game doesn’t cater itself TO YOU, it caters itself to MANY types of players. 35+ kills? Cracked musket players get 40-50+ and some even go 60+ lmao.(35+ is just decent)
Shitty weapon didn’t get a buff, shitty weapon has gotten “clunky” nerfs over the past few patches. And if you actually played the weapon you’d know that but you claim you played musket when nobody was playing it (this is the biggest bullshit I’ve ever read in the forums yet) You are not the first player in this game, you can’t claim that you played a weapon because somewhere out there there’s always ANOTHER player using the same thing at the same time. How many hours do you have in new world? @vlado_cekre want to compare?
lol, i was talking about pre-patch.
and after patch we still have ranged with most kill and dmg in OPRS.
only bad ranged suffers, same as bad light melee.
