In war spear is shit and unfortunately war is the only thing where you have to win to get a worthwhile reward.
In opr its…fine i guess? I have never in my life heard someone ask where all the spears on the team are, but every game you can pretty much guarantee complaints about not enough frontline bruisers.
Its really only arena that spear shines and bruiser does fine there as well.
We’re on the same server arent we? Who are our cracked spear users? I dont know them but ask for bruisers and youll get names.
It also depends a lot on how you arm the abilities of the spear and what your objective is in wars, if it is to go to the front and put states in the area, the spear is the best melee weapon for that.
I dont think spear has any frontline viability in war. The lack of consistent grit leaves you getting staggered out of a ton of your damage.
As a backline attacker, sure, but ranged dps seems to just deal with the unpredictability of war much better and often times you are better off having your ranged turn to healers instead of locking in multiple spots based on one role.
Not even saying its a bad idea to have like 1-2 spear running around backlines killing squishies, but is it actually worth doing that and giving up the aoe cc that a cookie cutter bruiser brings?
I would say no and i think that really hurts spear.
Imo spear itself needs a reliable escape. Like grit on skewer + a faster cast time on it. Idk, i quit the weapon a while back for this reason - it just seems lacking as a ganking tool and the utility other frontline weapons bring + grit kicks it out of the front line.
i mean on spear, going after GA/WH builds specificly as they will probably be swinging wildly while trying to dump every ability on cool down.
meanwhile spear with thwarting counter + its own twat counter skill tree perk would be hilarious.
also really easy to test since blackguard spear has it
not necessarily in duels but if you see a clump of them fighting sneak around behind them and skewer the crap out of em. (40% damage against active grit kinda sounds nuts, dunno how it interacts with various empowered effects)
speaking of spear aoe. didnt cyclone get pretty buffed?
you’re not going after squishes if you’re frontlining a war…? Not that I did amazing by any means stats wise as I was damage support 50/150/300 heavy, I was dealing pretty fair damage for being extremely tanky.
The main objective was CC and rend, dishing out okay damage in the clump to specific targets worked out okay.
I’d much rather be a GA/WH frontline, but you know, it’s a decent damage support build.
There’s not many frontline viable damage supports to my knowledge so I’d class it pretty high below BB/IG. Though, BB/IG isn’t TYPICALLY on the frontline at all times.
The screenshots from earlier were me running 50/250/200 with Thwarting Counter and in heavy. I was extremely hard to kill and the rend + damage for how tanky it is for being 200 con, even 300 con heavy, is phenomenal in OPR. It doesn’t translate as well to wars due to cleansing pots and the bigger scale of things, but it’s not in a bad place at all.
Right what i am saying is that the spear is best used for killing squishies because of the cc vs a rapier (good) and the fact it has no grit (bad).
I dont doubt individually, a thwarting counter spear is going to murder a bruiser, but the issue is really the lack of grit in something as large scale in a war.
I think were on the same page? Really i just disagree that spear is ok because it can see some success in opr. I dont consider that enough ESPECIALLY considering that back when people used spears, it was basically the best war weapon. This is not good different for me.
