Whats the point of PVP? I was enjoying myself

No thats a broken mechanic, and same as if someone cheated and just bought gold. If one form of battle forces the other group at a disadvantage whats the difference.

The two are nothing, at all, like each other. One is a blatant ToS violation and ban-worthy. The other is a player choice. If I flag up I expect to kill or be killed. If I don’t flag I don’t expect bonuses those who knowingly take the risk of dying get.

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It’s like playing wow and turning on war mode just to complain about getting killed. Identical situation we have here.

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Nothing you say can convince me that is remotely true.

PvE players are “forced” to flag and lose their minds.

PvP players are LITERALLY forced to do PvE to get better gear and that’s just good design…

Makes sense.

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i have noticed many toxic pvp players trying to drag mobs to pve players and then call them foul names synonymous with “coward” and then harrass them for hours on end.

time to remove pvp so these toxic pvp players can go play something else. they are so toxic even in league of legends they had to remove the option to chat with players.

OP: “I will be flagged, red, so other people can attack me”
-Other people attack him.
OP: :open_mouth:
OP: I will write about this injustice in the forum

I know PVE and PVP is something about taste, but run a whole MMO game like a CO-OP game must be a nightmare, better play Valheim or some farming simulator

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So… You were flagged up.
You got attacked while flagged and got upset?
Do you not understand what flagging means?

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Didn’t you quit a couple months ago?

its not a minor boost, its basically as you said like wearing 2x luck gear. Also in this game system, luck has a greater effect on rare items, Its not a simple multiplier.

that said, I think a boost to regular luck while flagged isnt a horrible idea. And even though the op presents it as PVE rewards, they are things pvpers need to compete as well

yes i started again 2 weeks ago, i have been playing daily for an hour or so

Well WELCOME back!!!

Have you noticed that drop rates and luck are way up somehow? They seem much higher the last week.

The point is why is my play style penalized. If there was no extra reward for pvp then I would not flag. So that is bs.

So you want the extra reward, just not the extra risk? Ha… HAHAHA. Holy entitlement Batman!

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So I assume you died and your progress was lost?

This is the exact reason why there is an additional luck bonus for those who flag for such activities - because you risk fighting, thus losing time (even if you win, plus none flagged players can ‘steal’ the node while others are busy fighting), and you risk being sent back to the rez, with repair costs (even more time lost).

The luck bonus is meant to compensate for taking that risk. To want the bonus, but then complain that the risk you took flagging, did not pay out for you, is simple unadulterated greed.

I have not once flagged while gathering in any shape or form. I am a pvx player. I have flagged to run pvp missions with my guild, but no bonus in the world could tempt me to flag when I gather or pve quest or whatever pve - it’s not my way to have fun, but I am glad that those who run full flagged at all times, are given some compensation for the risk they take, considering pvp is already punished with more regularly occurring repair costs.

Stop being greedy, or if you can not help being greedy, accept your greed very possibly will lead you into trouble.

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PvP is completely pointless and has been since launch.

just remove yourself from a pvp game if you dont wanna play a pvp game. problem solved. see? that was really easy. win/win for everyone.

have a wonderful day in FFXIV, good sir.

you created a game that forces 2 completely opposite types of players into the same world and expect that to go well? that hasnt worked once in 30 years and you definitely wont be the first ones to make it work. the only way you can stop this constant forum war is if you branch the game off into the real version aka what was originally planned before you decided to sellout and whatever this monstrosity we currently have is.

or you just scrap the current version as it has already failed anyway and just restart development from the alpha build and do it right this time. probably the better choice…

I honestly do not foresee any new content aside from them opening the areas already datamined. With the drop in playerbase there is no good business justification for adding content over fixing the game as a whole.

Of course, this is an Amazon subsidiary so burning money wouldn’t be out of the question…

or just removed pvp from a pve game. So EEEEZZZZZZ