What's with the Gatekeeping?

Well I have to say the answer would be no (towns etc.) but can you or not play the game up to level 60 and beyond without ever flagging? Or even not having the option to flag by not joining a faction.

I think you have got yourself confused.

You might want to reread the initial post, very carefully.

I’ve always thought this was going to be the summary of the thread.

I love both and I already know it would be pointless. Also it’s not players saying no they don’t want one it’s literally AGS. They don’t want to have a bunch of specific servers that will end up dying when they can’t even fill the ones they have. It’s better they create zones and instances for these things.

I definitely understand your initial post and if you know how to fix the problem - “It would take one dev less than an hour to code a check that makes the toggle function an auto-toggle function.” - then maybe you could post exact details of how it would be done on here so the devs can find out how to do it.

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But this doesn’t really matter though. It’s not full world PvP. If you just feel like relaxing on your character, not having to always be looking over your shoulder, you can. It doesn’t matter what can be obtained in PvP zones and what not.


Consensual PvP in Albion :smiley:
Unless by consent you mean literal traveling via red/black zones, where actually vast majority of the game happens.

PvP zones or servers is a must.

I LOLed!

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It’s surprising how many people haven’t played true PvP MMO’s to keep suggesting Albion as a full world PvP MMO…

Are you still here?

Not even sure whether you’re just being a troll or not. Not even sure what you’re advocating for in that regard either. Because apparently it’s not a full PvP server.

If PVP is a big part of the game then it needs to be a big part of the game regardless of server. Even if we say the pvp servers don’t become a unbalanced mess that destroy themselves. They will steal a large group of pvp willing players from every pve server further fracturing the player base into 2 groups. If the pvp servers do actually destroy themselves, then it’s a double lose, you stole good pvp from the pve servers, and stranded pvp players onto a failing server that causes more players to quit then remain.

BTW there is 9 expeditions (pve) and just same map (opr) and 3v3 arenas same map again so you really think this is pvp based game? i dotn think so they show more love to pve players than to pvp players just sayin

Seems AGS hasnt fixed the Azoth Engine completely.

Are we playing the same game? This is a pvp territory control game with some light PvE elements tacked on.

I don’t think anyone is gatekeeping. PVE people wouldn’t care if there was a PvP server…that is just the game developers choice not to support it.

I have not researched this broadly but MMOs with open world PvP that have PVE and PvP servers…PVE servers die last. So I suspect your assumption that PVE servers would die is not likely. Plus, the game developers added buffs to bribe people into flagging for PvP and it helped some but not that much.

The demand just isn’t there else they’d change it. The demand isn’t there because of the gamer culture being very toxic…so when we log in and act like clowns because we think there is no consequence due to anonymity, we’d be wrong. Game designers now have to design games around ensuring the human cancer doesn’t spread within it.

Just an idea - there is murmurs of fresh start servers incoming.

Why don’t y’all start a PvP flag thread where you attract a bunch of like minded people who can all agree to perma-flag, and then y’all start fresh on one of the new servers?

The beautiful thing about this game is that we actually have the tools to make it what we want.

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When territory control doesnt matter for an overwhelming majority of your player pop, it aint a territory control game. It’s a pve game with a couple of pvp game modes. Calling this a pvp game tells me youve never played one.

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Saying the game is PvE doesn’t make it PvE.

The game’s PvE content is a joke, and can be finished in a week.

And saying the game is a pvp game doesn’t make it one. If you want to know what a pvp focused mmo looks like…go play one. There’s a few currently and none of them are New World. That doesnt mean I don’t enjoy the pvp, but that’s not the focus of this game

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