and FYI, most of what you are currently saying has nothing to do with the topic, You are basically now describing a totally different game.
I’m ok with pvpers being upset. pvp doesn’t sell, it especially doesn’t sell in todays human market. I am here for war mainly which requires hard updates and pve. I’ve grown quite fond of crafting. I’d like to see full loot on death though as crazy as that sounds.
Seriously. Some people.
Why do posters feel the need to put ,“Change my mind?” I don’t care to change your mind. I don’t care about you nor your opinion about PVE. The only value that matters is the game’s value to the person playing it. If others don’t like it, too bad. This is not a pvp only game no matter how much elitists say to the contrary.
Explore a thrilling, open-world MMO filled with danger and opportunity where you’ll forge a new destiny for yourself as an adventurer shipwrecked on the supernatural island of Aeternum. Endless opportunities to fight, forage, and forge await you among the island’s wilderness and ruins. Channel supernatural forces or wield deadly weapons in a classless, real-time combat system, and fight alone, with a small team, or in massed armies for PvE and PvP battles—the choices are yours to make.
If this game has preview version combat maybe things would be different but they botched combat so hard for pve and pvp and today some new games came out and also in testing. I am thinking servers are pretty dead apart from some popular ones?
Exactly. My character is a lone wolf. He could give too flips about drama and politics (I play games to get AWAY from that crap). All he cares about is exploring, doing quests, fishing, hunting and selling things on the trade market. That’s it.
If I was interested in competing against other players in PVP, I would NOT be playing MMORPGs.
Lost me
Since when have MMORPG’s been designed to strip players of their choices?
Pretty sure the spirit of the genre is about giving people a whole new world (hah) to explore.
It’s explained quite clearly, will you join the discussion or simply brand it immaturely as something that’s not worth discussing?
In, this thread I’ve seen nothing but the prattling’s of people with a closed minded view of how an mmo should operate and they are pretty much all of the same disgusting opinion “there is us and them and they are toxic”.
Barely any of you have the experience to even give any form of damning opinions, everyone is ofc entitled to their opinion but when you don’t even have any real history on any online space that has had players conflict over each other, properly, not the silly bullying of noobs I see most of you spout, you just sound like children.
And if anyone past this post is capable of formulating a good view on the matter in their head without using the word toxic like if you’re under 18 years old, you might have my attention.
bro, just because you think the way you think doesnt mean every mmo needs to fit that niche model. lol. Again, perhaps NW just isnt for ya. the only one closed minded is you, not seeing the other side, only your very narrow view on mmos in general, not this mmo. Hell, ive even agreed with you that there needs to be more incentive to flag, but that just isnt enough for ya, give it a rest, your opinion, while totally valid, is just wrong when it comes to this game.
I’ve already stated and explained that I’ve enjoyed PvE in games that were designed for them.
All you are doing is spamming, again.
You’ll failed to answer a simple question, who is the target audience, this is in relation to what are the strengths of this mmo, I’ve heard no pin points from you.
I will not reply to you specifically again.
i totally answered that, you just chose to ignore it, as you did with so many others that in no way were toxic or childish. obvioussly this target audience doesnt include you, and thats all the explaining you are entitled to. I do not need pin points to enjoy a game, as you seem to. heres a thought, go design your own game, like the examples you cited, that have sold 1 million copies in 15 years time. see how well off you get servicing that community. the reason you are here is the games you describe didnt hold your attention. and sadly thats a fact you fail to see. enjoy the game as is, or wait and see what the content is down the road, stop trying to tell others how to spend our time playing a effing video game.
I think you got your answer. That is you’re never going to get an honest gameplay discussion by zealous moralism. Which are a bulk of the responses.
fallacious talking points and gaslighting.
I wonder how many times you are going to use fallacious in posts? and at no point did i gaslight anything. i simply spoke truth about THIS game and how its structured. that is all. BTW, its impossible to have a dialouge with people who dont see both sides.
I haven’t said a damn thing to you. I was talking to Beacon.
Well im talking to you, you 2 dont want a discussion, you want bots that agree with you 100% and nothing else matters my friend, its obvious
I’d say you’re about dishonest as they come. You’re not making a compelling argument or seeing both sides, you keep engaging in fallacies.
Why engage you? It’s pointless.
haha, right, thats why everyone is rebutting your posts and only you 2 are on mine. get over it, as for honest, idk where you equate anything here about honesty, but ive told nothing but truth, you just cant open your eyes wide enough from that narrow view to see it.
These aren’t rebuttals, they’re senseless finger pointing. Nothing of substance has come out of this thread other than childish banter and “PvPers are toxic”.
I have never said pvpers are toxic. as a matter of fact, ive agreed there needs to be better balance to entice pve mains to give pvp a go, but that apparently isnt enough for you. and you are right, you are senslessly finger pointing vs having any valid dialouge.
They don’t need to be of value to anyone. They bought the game and they can play how they feel they want to play. You sound like a kid with no real life experiences. Grow up.