then what will u do, if a person tell u “i dont trust ags developers, show me a proof for they banned the dupers forever” ??
do u have any proof for that either ?
I personally know 10 people who have heavily used every single exploit that has appeared in the game so far, and the most they have received was one 24 hour ban for the genesis exploit. I didn’t care to record them exploiting since they are friends, but it’s the truth that many exploiters don’t get punished at all.
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YET it’s very easy to notice that there’s a hell lot more people in voidbent now then they were before the dupe exploit went public. I was an optimist myself regarding this game, but at this point its obvious that something’s fucky with the economy. We deserve an explanation.
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Here they literally say they are permanently banning anyone purposefully duping items/gold.
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When streamers exploit bosses to farm watermark and gear to get far above everyone else, and get a 24 hour ban…… what is the difference Enron duping gold vs repeatedly killing the same boss over and over again scrapping the gear that’s not good and getting gold from that. Yet still on playing the game. A slap on the wrist. Still have the stuff they got. We are the beta testers
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You don’t dupe Major Trophys by mistake without noticing.
And If you notice, as a fair Player you File a Ticket for the item to be removed instead of earning Money on it on purpose.
Thats what fair Players do.
The evidence shows us they ban SOME of the dupers. Others, for some jaw dropping reason, are given 24 hours instead. The community would love to know why these people arent perma banned, but they wont tell us.
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That’s just 1 single instance, one single example. You do know there are other ways, right?
Furthermore, Ags has Assured us that such a thing wouldn’t happen again because the game is not Client authoritative. Yet Client authoritative-like exploits keep appearing nonstop.
You do know that you are playing with hundreds of thousands of Human Beings, right? You know, the creatures that are emotional and unpredictable and erratic and illogical and malicious… Should I go on?
Just how old are you… Jesh…
Have you posted the proof?
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You’re also asking for “proof” in several threads - but to cut it short:
Noone should show proofs or anything on these forums. The last thing this game needs is more reddit, youtube and twitter fly arounds about halfstory truths/proofs.
If anyone has “proof” they should be reported - not discussed and spread further here.
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Random dweebs making claims on the internet isn’t documentation. Just thought you should know.
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or more importantly, why are dupers getting banned at all? In 20 years of MMO history, until NOW, this is the only way of HANDLING anything by professional MMO’s that I’ve seen:
- Ban no one, ever.
- Are their imbalance issues? => hand these to the weekly guy.
- Are their exploits? REWARD those finding them, if true, & fix them accordingly (notice FIX; not BAN, like wtf)
- Are their farmers? follow the international mmo protocol, which is also now the one in America and Germany (80% of farmers to keep China & Russia running, and 20% banned if account new).
- Are their communications of clear harm or intimidation? Ban by appropriate time period, commensurate with severity.
name ANY successful mmo that doesn’t do this. I’m getting my wallet out right now, cuz I’ll put money on this any day of the week. The devs are doing something completely new and the whiners are having a field day, almost as if the whining IS the game. Sadly, the very players not whining, many of which have no idea what the hell all these exploits, bugs, and other (95 times out of 100) made-up crap is everyone’s talking about, and which at one point made up 85% of New World’s highly hopeful player-base, are either punished collaterally or by the stability, or excitement, of the game itself, yet having another thing like trade suddenly thrown in the garbage for days on end. The LENGTHS are amazing though. The lengths these whiners go to; showing COMPLETELY NORMAL streams as evidence of exploits winning wars and God knows what else; there’s even these 3 guys at MIT in the midst of publishing “New World: the game destroyed by bugs it never had.”
Update:
Think about the implications when you know not having authoritative may mean you can perform no permanent fix to this problem, so will broad permanent bans really be a sustainable answer? The other options is giving them warnings and time periods, because the issue is the format of the way your game was released, and that, in all likelihood, you’re doing this as a necessary workaround to fixing the problem, which maybe, without Authoritative, is not fixable.
I want to save this game, but it will take a side project from your company using Authoritative; the remake is maybe 3 months; optimization 1-2 yrs, and it may need subscription, depending on cost. Meanwhile, broad sweeps of permanent punishment may not be the best answer. Assuming it seems punishment is ALL you can do until then, a tiered system may be best. If you’re to retain base, a tiered punishment system may buy time if these are problems that simply cannot be fixed server side, due to the non-Authoritative issues. I’ll maybe address better later. Got to go to an appointment.
Its Amazon, how are you so naive to believe a company like that still has their hands clean in all this. Sometimes all the proof you need comes from the greedy companies name
Wait…are you suggesting that somehow Amazon organized a group of people to dupe items, flood the in game economy with money, and then did not ban them because it was all an inside job?
You one of those flat earther, anti vaxer, 911 was an inside job, and the holocaust did not happen types aren’t you?
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If you don’t believe what the devs officially state, this game isn’t for you.
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They just permanently banned 2500 people.
It’s in the devblog.
More shitposting is unnecessary
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Devs have been wrong dozens of times, so I’m not sure why you’d bring that up… Just look at when they said that drop chances were working properly in launch week, or when they said that drop chances of loot from chests were equal to chanes from drops off kills. There’s too many times to list here…