Why bother play NW as a PVX MMO when PvP and PvPers ONLY decide on combat?

wow is this community this toxic and trolly? and i thought gw2 was bad. now i have 2nd thoughts about playing this game. glad i got it for free. sheesh

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My favorite part of this thread is people clutching their pearls about “advertising other MMO games” when someone expresses their opinion. You may not agree with it, but it would, I think, be far kinder to engage with the core premise of his argument than to try to invalidate his opinion by harping on “bad form” in a fundamentally inconsistent way.

As to what I perceive to be the core of the point (and forgive me if I misunderstand), but there is a fundamental dichotomy that exists between PvP and PvE in this game, and it creates friction on both sides of the table. If a game is optimized for one style, it’s likely to suffer in another.

I think AGS is doing a better job of addressing this by marking some perks as PvP Only and thereby indicating that a certain weapon or piece of gear is clearly intended for use in PvP, but I think they can probably do better.

In at least one other MMO (I won’t mention which so as to not cause any more stress to those peals everyone loves to clutch) PvP weapons and gear have a stat on them that does not exist in PvE gear. This easily creates a clear break between the two different types of gear, and neatly solves the problem, since weapons with those particular stats can be balanced (by virtue of perks or special PvP effects) for PvP, and other pieces of gear can be balanced for PvE.

It makes for a game where anyone can use any weapon that’s available in the context they wish to do so, and trust that (for the most part) a weapon is balanced for that playstyle. The only downside, really, is the need to keep multiples of one type of weapon, but that’s the standard in New World, so I don’t see it as necessarily a bad thing.

I’d give it a chance. These forums can make jaded Redditors blush and cry for mom, but the game isn’t inherently as toxic as this thread (and these forums) can make it seem.

Both the PvE and the PvP suck in this game, but PvP has some potential at least.

Thinking Ashes is a scam had you lose all credibility.

That’s not what I think, but what the majority think other than the paid shills promoting the scam on YouTube.

I agree with the title of the post, they should just get rid of pve all together. So many toxic pvers on the forum , why should ags cater to them at all imo.

You obviously don’t understand pve combat at all. Yes, there are no wow-like rotations in new world, but if you’re mindlessly spam clicking lmb then I’m afraid you’re one of the people that annoy me in m10’s.

Getting max dps includes managing empower/fortify time, reducing ability cooldowns as much as possibly and dodging at the right times. If you’re spam clicking for the entire encounter you’re likely losing 50% of your potential dps. Knowing when to light or heavy attack and how your gear works with your weapon loadout is important.

The thing I love about NW is while there are only 6 abilities to use at any one time, those abilities are very impactful. Wouldn’t have it any other way tbh.

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Absolutely agree. After playing piano in FF14, WoW etc combat in NW feels like relief when I shouldn’t look at skillbar most of the time.

Wow. IP is suuuuuuper salty in this thread :frowning:

Dodging at the right time to reduce cooldowns? Who thought of that? Is this design by default
Or you have to spend a few thousand dollars for these legendaries?

Who was this game designed for? The 20 PvP fanatics who will be left playing it after the hype dies down in the new patch and the rest are bots?

We have 7 new completely fresh mmo PVE experiences coming and another 7 games already released that are actively working on improving their combat and PVE experiences and content.

Good luck with the PvP crowd deciding the future of NW. And RIP in advance.

…7 MMO that will be released in years (and that’s not a fact).
And another 7 MMOs that don’t improve their combat system, idk what are you talking about :smiley:

Huh

cya!

Sorry, but i can’t take this topic seriously when someone thinks Throne & Liberty is “new game” and not Bless online relaunch/rebrand.

wth are you talking about lol.

Started reading the topic from the start. Stopped once I reallised OP has no clue what he is talking about.
You guys keep up your own discussion.

Again one of those “oh my god everything is way too expensive i cant afford my 520gs gear”

Doubt true PVE players (and i dont mean those npcs who only know how to farm greenwood) will move away and yeah, the hardcore pvpers will def stay at new world since the soulslike mechanic is pretty refreshing and a good alternative to the “i can only spam macros because i am way too old for video games”

those named mmos all have p2w problems (yes i played most of them and i still play bdo active) and i wont take Tower of Fantasy as a serious alternative lmao.

Souls like is dead. They moved the combat for PvP to overwatch style plus the dodge mechanic and almost fully ignored block mechanic.