After 400 hours of game play like most of the people i play with, 0 would want to do that all again. This would kill my will to play anymore despite liking the game and would be the “final nail in the coffin”
They will sort out the exploits and everything will improve, wiping the server does not stop them from just doing it again they need to be banned based on how bad they screwed the server. Even better to just reset this guys chars back to level 1.
People are being banned and they are sorting it out, imo they are doing exactly what they need to do to address this issue. They banned nearly a whole guild on my server for blatant exploits.
Because its not just the gold dupe, everywhere where I look my server is dying from exploits, top companies capturing key cities using exploits, outpost rush being horrible bcs these same players go there after war to use some more exploits, what is happening is that they are making sure legit players stay logged off bcs game is trash for them atm for previous reasons, meanwhile these guys dominate everything and hoard such amounts of legit gold that they can literally buy best gear x200 and normal non exploiting players end up with no real presence on server after all this shits done with, if it will even ever stop.
It doesn’t take a lot of effort or thought to give up and start over fresh. Unlike sitting down and actually engaging with the issues this game has or trying to figure out how to fix them. Ultimately it’s a sign that most people do not really understand what is wrong, why or what to do about it and that they are becoming too tired of trying to figure it out. It is kind of sad. Also supremely unhelpful.
Rollback will affect many innocent players who never heard about those exploits until last night when everybody were wondering and asking “WHY I CANT SELL/BUY?”.
With trades closed they can track the DUPE sellers items and see who is selling them in big amounts! I’m aware that there might be some innocent players selling an item or a stack of specific item as they bought it very cheap and tried to resell. But players who DUPE have many stacks, not only 1 and can easily check their crazy money income raise and selling list to see how many similar DUPED items were sold by each player.
But everybody who did DUPE with intention to get unfair benefits and break game system should be permanently BANNED and also IP BAN (if still exist). For such infraction should be no tolerance and forgiveness like a 2-4 weeks BAN and let them play again! NO! Permanently BAN everybody who used DUPE method for abusing game system!!!
I’m not saying a wipe is the best method, but I do want imbalances caused by exploits/bugs to be addressed. I want this as this game is made up of multiple competitive functions, and these should be a level playing field;
World PvP, Rush, Wars;
Individual gear plays a massive part, those who took advantage (whether knowingly or not) and now have full end game gear. Well ofc they now have a large advantage, as those who do not now face massively increased prices or lack of availability. This isn’t a level field.
Gathering, Crafting, Market
How many used duped materials to power level their crafting? How many cashed in on gold dupers laundering gold? Just because a player didn’t dupe/exploit, doesn’t mean they’re not sat on the profits from it. Good luck trying to have an impact on a market against these players, this makes a % of gameplay inaccessible. Again the opportunity they benefited from is no longer there. This isn’t a level field.
Companies, Territory
How many companies cashed in when gold dupers laundered in their cities? Gold doesn’t win wars, but it can really help gear up your members. If you didn’t own a city at this time, can you catch up to those who did? This isn’t a level field.
You get the idea, it’s not the initial act of exploit/dupe that needs fixed, but the legacy effects of them. Maybe you guys could think of a way to lessen/remove these?
Because simply there isnt another solution. The whole economy and progress of every single player is tainted by these dupes that existed since day one. I dont like grinding again and I dont know if I’m up to it, but as things stand now there is no way knowing if someone got his stuff or skills legit or by benefiting knowingly or unknowingly from exploits and bugs. Yeah it sucks big time, but this is where we stand now.
In your opinion. Btw, it’s very presumptuous of you to assume you know each and every possibility. Do you have a Time Infinity Stone we don’t know about, Dr. Strange?
They’ve already said they are pursuing another solution.
This makes no sense. The people who got their levels, gear and gold without exploits could do it again.
The ones who face a wipe and having to play without them, and/or having to actually play instead of just afk’ing through levels are afraid of a wipe, and want to keep what they got.
Over 298 hours played as of this post for a month. A bargain at $40. Job, family, ect…finding time before a wipe wasn’t a problem; wouldn’t be one afterwards.
Wipe it. Like a dirty part of your body. This needs cleaned. Fix it, restart.
I had fun playing a couple of characters and checking out the world and hanging out with people. I’d do it again even more eagerly if the broken stuff was fixed.
Better for the long-term health of the game and for attracting new players who have been keeping track of what’s going on.
Only other solution would be to track every single duped gold and item, delete it, refund gold from trades with them, delete skill points gained while using them, delete items that were made with those skill points, refund legit materials used to craft those items and so on and so on. Do you really think its presumptuous to assume that this is impossible?
It’s what they said they’re gonna do. Who am I to say what’s possible.
They may have a track record of bad mistakes and bad decisions, but it doesn’t mean you or I know more about what’s possible than the creators. I’m not trying to be a dick here, but your ignorance of what’s possible or isn’t is influencing your assumptions and I’m just trying to point that out.
Sometimes people don’t want to “think” Von. They get stuff, they want to keep it, no matter the method used. They think it’s the end when "OMG I’d lose a MONTH of ‘creative gameplay’ " , while not thinking that by fixing and restarting, they’d have a game that would last for years.
They don’t even have to do a wipe at this point so that option makes no logical sense. Every transaction they need to take action on those offenders is there already, people are not getting away with crap. The exploits will be fixed and the game will go on.
They are already banning people. They are already doing what they need to do to address the issue. They will clean up the game and new world will go on.
Amazon wasn’t even able to track the discount players would have gotten on their house tax and for how many weeks they would have benefited from it, and just gave everyone 2k across the board, but people are deluding themselves they’ll somehow be able to trace back every duped coin or item, as well as the proceeds in terms of crafted items and leveld professions, and remove them from a server’s economy.
They’ll just try to sweep this under the rug, it’s plain obvious the people calling the shots are clueless about MMOs.