Why I don't think PVP only servers will solve any problem

i’ll say it again, before pvp servers, they have to fix the current game issues/transfers.

i’m tired of relisting why it’s not so easy to “bring back the code since it was already there 2 years ago”. willfully ignoring they will need another team pretty much or take away from fixing/content/transfers/etc, doesn’t change that it will fuck up the game for everyone… pvp/pve/pvx to do so.

What the hell are you attacking me for. I want you to have PvP servers but I have seen a not small number of PvPers complaining that they do not want PvP servers but want to force PvE players to flag. That tells me that they don’t want to fight actual players who can PvP they want victims. If that is not you then I was not talking about you and you can calm the hell down. I still want to know what appeal there is fighting someone who does not want to fight.

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there is no appeal and that isn’t what 99% of the PvPers want.

It doesn’t matter, people will complain about everything.

Once they make Pvp server, it will be flooded with PvE players complaining about getting killed, etc.

It doesn’t end. the end game for New World is complaining.

I agree with you but I am speaking specifically about the ones who say no to PvP servers yet want to force PvP on PvE players. I am not stereotyping anyone. I am all for PvP servers and have always been. I won’t play on them but I think people who enjoy that should have that option.

how many are there? like 5 people that want to force PvE people to PvP?

More than 5. A lot more than 5. And that’s just among those who bother with the Forums.

I have seen quite a few. But regardless I was just commenting on your question about why PvP players have been arguing against PvP servers. I have seen quite a few say they did not want to split them up. I don’t think they really want PvP if they don’t want a PvP server. That’s all I’m saying and I am certainly NOT saying all PvP players are griefing assholes either but you have to wonder about the ones who want PVE players to flag and don’t want PvP servers.

no the no pvp servers are usually by the pve crowd.

how do you know outside of the forums?

Give us pvp server, give us full loot in pvp e.t.c. Wat’s wrong with you? Game working perfectly now, just need more content and polishing. But wait. Game released less then monht ago. Month, Karl.

This two major aspects of mechanics work fine only when work together. PVE players fill the trade system, make that quests that need for region economy. PVP players wont do this “boring” things, so they fight each other, for forts, region domination e.t.c and regulate city evolving. So what the real reason of flaming?
As I said - everything work fine in NW game conception now, don’t touch it.

Earlie in this topic someone remebered Albion. I remember how it was on start, renowned full loot and total pvp. Game started to die after few weeks precisely because pvp can’t live without pve content in it. Lineage 2 was great in own time because got that balance. Warhammer AoR got great pvp in same way, even RF online (mostly uknown now) was very good pvp game with pve and pvp mechanics bound each other.

Only synergy, only together.

the way the game is designed, i think players will craft/gather in a full loot pvp server.

Weapons and armor will be disposable so the economy has to be running.

Hard no on having pve rewards locked behind a pvp wall. People should flag for pvp because they want to pvp not because they get much greater pve rewards. This would only be an effort to force pvers into flagging so they can get pve rewards and all they will do is run away and complain. Then the pvpers will just complain that everyone runs away and running away is too easy.

This would just increase the hard feelings between different types of players even more. If people want to pvp they will flag up. If they aren’t flagging because they don’t get better pve rewards, then they didn’t want to pvp anyway.

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the only solution is to make a pvp server. If someone complains in the pve server they are really dumb.

Also any pve people in pvp servers complaining will be dumb.

My point is that you’ll get both. and that is why we can’t have nice things.

There are a LOT of people who like to PvP but do not want to be forced into 24/7 PvP getting roflstomped by 24/7 no life or pro e-Sport PvPers.

They like to play PvP but also like to have the possibility to enjoy a chilled PvE play session.

I am one of those and I could live with PvP areas and or territories being PvP when in conflict or PvP in enemy faction territories as long as I also have the possibility to somehow play PvE a bit when I want to, even if it is restricted a lot.

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Not at all. You will spend ton of time to craft something and some "Jojo’ just kill you from nowhere and take your equipment. 1-2 times it happened and player will just leave the game because time spending frustration.
Black desert online clearly show that gamers don’t want to lose things that was hardly gotet by them.

Old human history said a lot about pvp ingame mechanics: some like to make farms, create things safely and sold them to those who prefer fighting each other and protect those who making supply for them.

As said earlier - NW do not need this changes. Game works fine in core-mechanics, just need content and polishing existing.

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if those people don’t like it, they can just join the pve server, what is problem here?

I’m all for World PvPers having their own server to go gank each other on, have at it. It’s just probably going to end up with one faction being way too strong, but I guess you all can change factions to sort that out.

Rly? I’ll turn back your words: don’t like existing conception - go play other game. Don’t like?

Game works as it works, so you like it or don’t like. If last variant - you searching other game.

My server right now is mostly green,

I want to change to the underdog faction (yellow), but I’m saving my free faction change to when I move servers. 4 months cooldown on faction swaps are too long.

but my scenario has options for the 2 opposing views. lol.