Mage in pvp is unplayable right now. Lead dev who accepeted all this changes from last patch has no idea what he is doing and how game works.
Now ultimate play vs mage is LMB. Even if you miss all skills and you are blind, you keep spamming LBM and you will kill mage at some point.
mage still can win 1v1 with some builds but most of the time it has to be very good mage player vs bad melee/archer player. In equal fight mage is mostly done.
Im not talking about good mage vs bad mele. In case both are ± same skill and gear lvl mage cant do anything. Game was very close to balance all types of builds in relation to each other and here we are.
Musket is op as it was, bow crazy dmg but mobility nerfed so now they run with crazy dps from range and close cobat (GS). All mele is just sh… on light armor builds by LMB usage. Its a mess like never ever before. Head of balancing departments have no idea how game works. Best prove of that is PTR 2 muekts nerfs where each of them does buff musket build that is used by 90% of players.
because right in the penultimate beta fears some mimimimi who were in the forum crying for FireStaff, and Amazon as a good listener of dead game fanboy and PvP sucker, went there and nerfed FireStaff.
There used to be INT Scaling on gems that would let mages psuedo scale melee weapons off INT.
No longer the case though, cause Magic Gem scaling was gutted prior to launch day.
Base weapon damage is always going to be higher than INT/FOC scaling, even if you run 400+ INT the scaling coefficient is meaningless.
we dont need mele weapons scale with int. reason ppl do play mage is that its not mele builds. mage is a caster.
fact that ice spike - hardest to land skill in game is doing less dmg than half random skills from mele weapons is a joke.
fact that mele weapons do more dmg with auto aim skills and heavy attacks than pillar of fire is a joke.
even musket and bows does more dmg with 40-50m+ auto attacks than mages with close range hard to land skills.
whole department of weapon team should be verified and ppl who have no idea what they are doing moved to place where they can be competent.
Mages with melee weapons would be a byproduct of INT Gems having actual scaling.
300 points in INT is equal to 200 points in STR or DEX.
INT and FOC falls short big time due to lack of scaling on a per-attribute point basis. Same can be said with CON.
Scalling is small issue. Real issue is they made mele LMB spam to kill mage where you cant counterplay that. Im tired on mele missing all skills on arena and LMB me to death couse i used stamina to aboid all their skills. As long as state of mage is like that im not buying single items from game shop. Big middle finger from me to amazon dev team.
The answer to why it is so bad is because AGS’s data analysis is flawed. They see that mages are always in very good spots on the leaderboard in OPR so they think the class is fine. What they fail to realize is the concept of statpadding which applies heavily to fire mages. Yes, they put out tons of damage over time, which brings you to the top of the leaderboard, but that damage is all meaningless because it gets outhealed by AOE heals anyway. This is also the reason why nobody brings the class to wars. It’s super weak.
Don’t even talk about PvE, same state as musket there.
How are mages doing against melee since the recent changes to light armor? I haven’t seen many mages in arenas, so I assume it’s not going well.
Essentially because AGS developers can’t grasp the concept of stat-padding and because they use bug influenced data in making balance decisions.
Any mele with any brain cells alive kills good mage no problem.
And in case of hatchet or ss or GS you just have to LMB spam to kill mage. No brain required at all.
The sad truth in all this is, AGS has no considered solution/change for this planned. If they did they would address one of these posts with a cooler statement to let us know they know. Instead they release detonate tune and GS, see the pop raise again. So you think anything is changing anytime soon?
They dont understand how game works. Dont understand realtion beteween different builds, their position in combat and overall mechanic related to game. What they do - they react with 2months delay to data they see. And they dont know how to read that data 
So yea, random changes untill game dies or they figure out that balance team need new leader to make calls.
Well guys, i am the creator of the topic and i just want to say that i am done.
by seeing how ppl trade gold and dupe items, by seeing how explorating flaws of the game developers is a normal thing in the competitive cenario, and by playing pvp every day got me tired ( a dude just mitigated a full incinerate but just using a warhammer skill).
i was there playing by the rules wile ppl duped and abused buggs and guess what? notting change that much! there are plenty of bots, there are a LOT of gold sellers (if you know you know, high end players just do that normaly), and i endure becouse i believed in the game, i believed that it can change and become a solid game.
I just realized that i dont want to invest my time in a game like this, it just dont worth at all.
I feel similar.
Bots and Cheaters will always be in an mmo. You cannot change that. No one can. Learn to accept it. It sucks, but its truth. If you are leaving a game because of this you are harming yourself, and the game you claim to believe in.
Become part of the solution. Rise up and report them. Leaving lets them win.
Please Balance weapons… people want more diversity… imo Mele is good, Ranger also are good… but mages (Int weapon) really need lot of more love… maybe a complete redesign, cause now they are realy bad… just look the numbers of ppl playing Mages weapons…
Please… lof of MMO players love mages and now we are forced to play STR or DEx cause Mages are broken
More diversity contributes to maintain players
yes.
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