Hello fellow tanks! I am back I was on vacation XD came back and the tanks on my server have disappeared in thin air again because of this current patch things hurt way worst now. My question to AGS is what is your direction for tanks I am beyond baffled at these decisions! Bows now hurts just like the musket did knocking down almost a nice chunk of my health along with everything else? I use to be able to tank at least “3” people for a little bit solo stalling or escaping now that’s almost nonexistence. I love my shield but now it does not even take much to take it down?! I’m still escaping on no shield stamina and just die like cattle?! What is the plan here why would you allow us to have so much health throw on armor and then just exist? We need a tank game plan.
It’s great to see you again here on the forum friend.
Unfortunately our situation hasn’t improved much, in fact, with the launch of arenas (a pvp modality that doesn’t depend on capturing a flag) the uselessness of the tank has become even more noticeable.
I still stand by my video for tanks then I would have rather take the last patch before i left than this.
With the new mutation effects especially the extra stamina damage one, it’s more worthwhile to be a dodge tank. Which in all honesty is just a heavy bruiser.
Agree
Lets just face facts people. AGS doesn’t understand tanks and never will. Just respec or go and play another game that recognizes the role of tanks and ensures we are useful. I’m back playing FFXIV and loving my role as tank again.
Also, most of the NW players don’t have alot of experience with MMOs and dont understand their OWN roles in a group. How many times do we see DPS running up and tapping the boss first? Running into rooms and grabbing aggro first? Running AWAY from the tank when they get a mob on them instead of running the mob TO the tank as they should? Its a mess and then some. Just go DPS/heals and let them beg for tanks as they are doing now in my servers Global and recruit channels. AGS doesn’t understand tanks, The playerbase doesn’t understand tanks. Its hopeless.
Tanking is extremely way better in FFXIV. Also aggro is dog **** in New world. There is a lot AGS can learn/take from FFXIV
That’s the thing. As the guy that did the Death of a Game video said, AGS made the game in a vaccum. They didn’t look at any other MMO and take ideas from them. And most of the Dev team has no MMO experience. ITS. HOPELESS.
I have had a very little success going into arena as a tank and locking down the enemy dps long enough for my team to kill their healer. Just keeping their heavy hitter stunlocked for a few seconds can do your team a lot of good. But honestly it is nowhere near as reliable or valuable as doing a ton of dps.
Nah, ESO would be a better comparison. Not because it’s a better game, but because (specifically) the tanking is the same. ESO has no “threat table” like WoW and FF14. You want to tank? You have to use abilities that ‘taunt’, which leave a debuff that forces the enemy to attack the person who gave them the debuff; it falls off, mobs turn to the person on the hidden threat table.
…spam your taunt abilities too much and the mob goes immune to taunts for a short duration.
Thats brilliant, a debuff on players to force aggro on tank to remove.
Nah, the aggro and taunt of tanks needs a rework and needs to be more like a successful game like FFXIV. They got the tanking system down!
I think we’re all are pretty set, we see it which is why we’re voicing it. I could already tell by my short time here that there is clearly some sort of communication issue between us, streamers, PTR, the forums mods, and the devs. I think what’s happening in our case is New World is still a new game so we’re giving it “time”. However things don’t look good when they keep dropping the ball there are “many issues” with the game with a small dev team I think it’s ten people right? but hey there have been other games that had a rough start in it’s first year, and got on track.
Personally I will not respec and go with the flow that’s my call. Tanking this current patch has gotten worst for pvp, and the only way to feedback that to them is to tank. So if I sit there and do pvp for abit then log off and do something else won’t hurt my feelings. I’m like 1% dumb dumb out of thousands of mouth foaming dps. If they don’t fix it after x amount of time and it gets far worst than it is now people will do what they always do find something else.
We do have some people who don’t understand roles in the game for pve but it’s not life threating in New world. Honestly a few small changes could help but the dungeons and etc are fine unless your doing mut’s. Our kind is a rare breed here let us rally.
TLDR: TANK
FF14’s tanking system might as well not exist. The mobs should literally be programmed to just attack anyone with the Tank Aura active.
It’s stupid-easy to keep threat. So much so, that I just use my AOE so I don’t have to target anything; a true “tank go brrrrrrrrrrr” moment.
Or have defiant stance on a shorter CD? Surely not too OP?
Maybe carnelian, in conjunction with defiant stance only (to not be abused by other classes) applies weaken for half its duration or nullifies all shirking perks for full duration of 8s.
Then maybe the ridiculous 45s is justified and tanks are useful in arenas.
Seeing as Carnelian is pve only this small change helps tanks be a utility in PVP and not just absorb damage.
Defiant Stance should last at least half the CD, it’s the minimum for any buff balance.
Also, all the “agro” mechanics are already done in the game. The skill itself already defines whether or not it is compatible with the carnelian gem, defines the duration of the debuff and the area of effect.
It is enough that this is not restricted to the mob and that against players, it applies slow (for example).
The aggro radius and CD on defiant stance is all kinds of goofy. I can’t imagine running anything less than full refreshing gear and a sword with refreshing move just to spam the hell out of it…
Same here. Refreshing is on all of my tank gear. I also secondary hatchet as Berserk is probably the best taunt in the game (Which is kinda dumb if you think about it 
). I would think SnS would have the best and most far-reaching.
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