100%, im not saying the battlepass is the NUMBER 1 way to go about more monetization, but its a good model to adopt if nothing else. I think just going the cod route and adding really cool skins that people would actually want to buy would be better. The skins right now feel like they were made by someone who lacks the imagination portion of their brain. The game doesnt need a battlepass if the skins were more frequent, and actually good. Id be ok with either, and your alternative. Just trying to get it through that battlepasses arent some cardinal sin, theyre a pretty good way to monetize. Id much rather have more and better skins, or your idea, over a battlepass, but id be ok with a pass too.
same dev studio, different team within the studio most likely.
Not really, the analogy doesnt work here because its a totally different concept and out of context. AGS can barely handle watching over lost ark, can barely handle developing NW, what makes you think they can handle another MMO under their belt. The new listings, coupled with their track record of cancelled/abandoned games, and the failure to retain players in NW, it seems like they wanna jump ship and start again. It would be more like, if im a manager at a mcdonalds, and corporate decides to build a new location right next to mine, and keeps telling me that they arent going to shut down my location while simultaneously doing things that would point in that direction.
im not gonna lie, I think a name change would just be confusing to players since theres no other indicator that its you. but thats a minor issue I have with name changes. If someone on my friends list changes their name, im quite literally going to unfriend them because I think theyre a random and I need to clear space on my friends list. Having a per character naming system instead of per account naming system makes sense in this game, but it makes things strange sometimes. But anything is better than having to get randoms to report your name in order to change it.
@ JuicedInsomniac
It seems that a person is so bad at the game that he does not care that it is a MMORPG, where every day he needs to make a grind to improve his character. OPR and mutations will bring gypsum and shards so that you can reach new heights. To do this, you need every day to grind, every day to go. BUT IT’S THE BATTLE PASS THAT MAKES HIM LIVE IN THE GAME. Lol. He looks like a troll. He wants to buy the game 1 time, a couple of times in six months buy armor for $5 and require developers of stable servers and content in the style of Brimstones every six months.
As Wrinkle wrote in the next topic
But it’s the battle pass that this stupid person can and does not buy that won’t have p2w content that will kill the game.
I think there are two options:
or this man used to play a mobile Korean game where he was made to come in and do the grind house every day. Made him buy bonuses and amplifiers.
or this man is a miser and won’t spend $10 on visual content. It’s torture for him.
By the way about the “daily grind”. I played in PUBG. I bought the last two battle passes. They lasted 3 months. I performed daily tasks every day, playing for 2 hours. When I finished it, I had 20 more days to finish the BP.
yep, most battlepasses are completable with minimal play time. I completed the R6 Battle pass in the last week or two of the 3 month season because I had quit playing when the season started. Same with cod, only it was more like just off and on play time. I dont frequent cod, I only play when friends want to play with me, but I still managed to complete or almost complete the battlepass for almost every season I played. Thats why I never get FOMO with battlepasses, because I know the grind is minimal. Most of the cod battlepasses that I completed were the free one, I got free cosmetics, easy. Didnt pay for anything nor was I tempted to because I knew I didnt play the game all the time. Still completed it. If I happened to buy the battlepass even though I dont play enough to complete it, nor do I want 99% of the skins in it, thats my fault, not the games. Thats called being irresponsible. Its not the games job to babysit you and watch over you to make sure you make good financial choices.
The concept is already in the game, the grind is already in the game, the dailies are already in the game, the genre as a whole is much worse than the BP model, and the benefits will outweigh the weak mental of financially incompetent players who btw, are the minority.
His opinion, while valid, comes from inexperience with actually completing a battlepass and having his head in the sand and being oblivious at the type of game hes playing.
That’s it. I go into the game for a few hours every day. Every day. And it would be a nice bonus, that for my two hours of daily play I will also be given cosmetic rewards. And nothing’s gonna happen if I don’t get in the game a couple of times in three months.
yep, if I miss a cool skin, so what, if the games not fun, the games not fun. Im not gonna pay money to get a skin if I dont want to grind to get it, nor if I dont find the game fun. Theres always the free track, its literally a win-win, you dont buy it, you get free rewards for playing, you do buy it, you get cooler rewards, a return on the currency you spent to buy it, and a reason to play.
Exactly. If a person does not want to buy BP, Lord, let him not buy. If a person does not want to grind, let him not grind. Nothing will happen to his character unless he buys a battle pass. Others who buy a pass will have no advantage over him. The only thing better is the one who plays the game longer and more often. And that’s because he improves his character. This is MMORPG, which makes people play often and for a long time.
My two cents on the matter is, I saw this game as a 1 time purchase, with the option of paying into non game play altering cosmetics and i sincerely appreciated that business model.
However, businesses do what businesses do, and at the end of the day they need to turn a profit for a live service. Between either a battle pass style progression system or subscription service, with its current offerings, i think a optional battle pass would be the better option for this game.
When I think of paying a sub, i write it off in my head that im contributing to upkeep and development of the game, and that in turn should keep micro transactions out of the game since they are getting a steady stream of income per player.
However, NW already has a cosmetic only store that seems to be on a pretty regular update, so I can assume that they are making decent money off the store, especially since they also seem to be regularly updating content. So with the in place infrastructure, a battle pass style system would not be outside the realm of impossibility, and as long as it was implemented with a sense of responsibility, i think it could be good for both player and developers alike.
That all being said, i would like it if neither are implemented, and instead they focused on the core game design and balance to bring and keep people engaged, and we as players can vote with our wallets and buy those cool cosmetics when theres something we like as our way of directly supporting this team.
I dont respond to people who cherry pick what i say so it seems half baked. Quote the hole thing if you want to address the issue for relavence or simply dont include any of what I say in what you have to say so users can just click the drop down on what it is your respondibg too. Thats what fox news does to smear people in biased news stories. Be better than that.
Bro your example was shit, context wouldnt have helped.
heres the whole quote, still doesnt make your example make any sense. why are you talking about unspoken advantages? why are you bringing up vision issues with skins when this game has a big ass name tag above you, why are you bringing up random stealth buffs and nerfs when replying to a statement about battlepasses being cosmetic only.
There shouldnt be limited time tracks in an MMO. its ok when there are seasonal stuff and such, seasonal events and vendors, but battlepass is too much. they should just keep putting styles onto the store. I already hate “limited time” concept, in my opinion as a customer i should always be able to reach ANY kind of content(gear/item/skin etc) in ANY time i want. I wish they just put every limited time skin onto the store so that new players can get them too and so that we can get them when we have the economical means to get them for example.
Apparently PC overtuned. 