That would have had to be 3 stacks of empower and a honing stone to even get that and most of my stuff dont hit for 3.8K I might be lucky get 3.8k with a keen and vicious axe with 3 stacks of empower(5% per stack for 5 seconds),deaths embrace (10% armour penetration against enemies under 50% health ), Bloodlust (15% empower and 20% haste while looking at an enemy) and a powerful honing stone and thats on a critical hit I might get 3.8K to a person in light armour when I’m in medium at 622GS. Its not the Great axe tree its self that makes it strong its the perks that you can get on the weapons I mean even a rapier can out DPS my Great axe atm due to they can hit me 3 times per my 1 swing, I mean damn you would have to have a BiS axe to be hitting 4K and over and thats usually got thwarting strikes which is 11% extra damage when you have grit, also you have to apply things like resilient which lowers your crit damage to nearly nothing if they have a full resilient set like alot of people in my company have which is like 24% less damage from crits, so either you have 0 resilience on your gear or that great axe has BiS perks
You have made your point. Your numbers are true and trusted. No point discussing this any further. Let’s delete GA based on your credible evidence.
Oh and PS: Other weapons can do that damage (and more) to you in light as well, you realise that, right?
Why do bother talking to a dude who s not able to record a clip in 2022 to prove his point…Dont waste your time move on.
Lol …when I watched the last Devs video and when they sayd the #1 weapon is still hatchet I was like "yea right’’. I’m playing OPR every day and the most players are still using GA/WH. I see 2-3 players who are using hatchets and this is it.You have 15-20 players who are using GA/WH at least on my server and I think this is the same on other servers.Do I need to explain why??? I guess not since Devs are playing GA/WH and they making sure this weapons will be balance good against any other weapons.
clearly this post is by some casual noob that has no idea what the str is of weapons. sounds like you’ve never done any wars or oprs or real pvp.
Greataxe is still OP.
Your server is very different from mine…or the one I was on just before it. Most melee have been gone for months now. There’s only a handful on a side often times, and many of those are now running hatchets, spears, and swords. It makes it very hard to take a point because there’s nobody willing to jump in first since the ga/wh meta is over. I’d say on average there are more VG’s in any given OPR I play than great axes. And I just transferred to one of the big servers people are congregating to in my region, and have run 15+ OPR in the last couple days.
And as for the person screaming about a 4k hit from, the only way you’re getting hit for 4k is if you’re getting hit by a heavy attack, and if you’re in light armor getting hit by a GA heavy, lol. I have a 625 great axe and I hit full glass cannon lights for 3k crits, and since the meta on my server is magic, I’m pretty sure I only hit that high because people are likely running elemental resist gems.
I get it, GA want their time in sun to continue.
Its a constant ploy by some GA users, of which there are many obviously, to pretend you’ve been nerfed to the point where it’s just not feasible to play any more.
Irrespective of all the people who continue to play it. You can stop with the pretence, those who are still playing OPR/Wars are all aware of what it is. Funny thing was you begrudgingly admit it was “maybe OP”. I’m sure you thought that at the time as well.
They are the only viable option for a melee build. If you are using light, don’t stand near melee?
I assume you are a range build so you can abuse the dodge to win any fight against melee. If you are melee in light, I don’t know what to tell you…
Hatchet is a shadow of its former self. One out of every two hits totally miss. You pretty much only can kill people who are rooted or slowed.
It’s an average dps weapon that offers some mobility and aoe with high cooldowns. Take the aoe away from it when fighting against range players or another high dps weapon like hatchet or rapier and you get a bad weapon.
I’m very aware that they’re the only viable option for melee. I try not to stand next to them, but they seem drawn to me for some reason.
Have you actually played with the great axe and warhammer? I have, I’m a dex user, I tried GA/WH to see how cheese it is, I brought all 600 gear, resil perks, have fury and a keenly empowered keen great axe.
I should cheese right?
No, I am mechanically shit with the great axe hammer, I can only play well in groups with it where others carry me, people with the exact same builds can beat me at it because they’ve learned how to play it and play it well.
I emplore you to try the build you call OP before using it, because strength GA/WH is very much not OP. I think its fair to say it’s even underpowered. the ONLY time it really shines is in group combat. imo
Yes I’ve played it, and it’s far stronger than a dex build, even with light armour. Of course there no range, but it’s far more forgiving.
Aoe Cc, larger hit area, damage is about the same but easier to hit with.
I just find it very boring.
Here we go even after the patch GA/WH is still meta.You can see 20+ of them in OPR in every game.Top killers also with heavy gear.Maelstorm is one shooting light armor players and then they are not doing anything to fix this crap.
Mage has been the meta for awhile. More than melee. First VG IG now FS IG.
a lot of this “meta” would be resolved if they changed the passive from 300 str to 300 con. A dps with an “unstoppable” buff, which is a defense buff, doesn’t make any sense
Yep - Grit needs to go. Thwarting strikes has just rubbed salt in the wound at this point. Grit alone gives 12% damage reduction and now 11% more damage for free. Why? The build is outperforming in war, which is the only pvp that matters in this game according to AGS’s reward system
Mage never was a meta.Mages was able to kill heavy armor players with there heavy attacks but after the nerfs they are just trash also mages was never able to one shot anyone ingame.Anyways im not talking here about mages im talking about how much GA/WH is overpower then any other weapons and what they will do about this.I really dont know how they dont see this but everyone knows Mealstorm can one shot players who are in light armor.I mean GA players who are running with heavy armor can just one shot light armr players.Anyone think this is fun ???Afcourse not and this need to be changed.
The biggest problem is that GA/WH are the devs favourite weapons, thats why they put way more effort into them (multiple reworks in PTR) and push IG/VG to like with massive stutter issues (and no reworks to underused skills).
It is a clear bias from @Developer
Just another item to the long list of Player Friction issues.