Why this game is so grindy?

if you are calling this game grindy you havent playeed a grindy game at all
i have been playing this game at most 4 hours a day and i have all the sh.t i need
there is grind but its nothing compared to korean or chinese games…

you are just lazy and ungratefull

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Was that a typo? Did you say 15 000 hours?
That is the equivalent of a full time job for over 8 years (5 days a week, 12 months a year), just to stay competitive.

No wonder MMORPGs’ playerbases are collapsing and the genre becoming less and less popular.
This generation has seen their purchasing power reduced by almost 50% compared to previous generations. Some people have to take multiple jobs and still can’t afford buying a home.
Are you telling me that is normal that you need to spend the equivalent to a part-time job or even a full time job in a stupid game doing repetitive tasks in order to have a chance?

Clearly, the concept of MMORPGs that you like is then aimed at people who doesn’t need to work for a living, who have no lives, or both at the same time, then.

If AGS wants to get more players for their game, then they know what must be done: stop catering to the no-lifers who can waste 1/3 of their lifespan grinding for digital crap.

No. Maybe he has a life he needs to work for, a family to spend time with, and healthy sleeping habits he needs to maintain.

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NW isn’t grindy at all OP, not within MMORPG genre. Its not MOBA or FPS game.

hard agree.
Whoever thinks a grind is too hard I invite you to farm a legendary set with weapons for your character in GW 2 xD

Dude did you ever playd any other mmo? This game is nowhere as grindy as most other mmo - old ones or new ones.

low-effort-bait

FFXIV with a 400h main campaign to even get to max level and ESO with its Paragon system that is way grindier than NW’s expertise system are probably not the best one to shit on NW with.

…soon as i saw the title of the thread i knew who would be the first reply…

Also, imo, BDO is trash…

hard grind? Please, Join the fishing aptitude 250 club

True, but the huge difference is 5% total stats between a Legendary and 2Gold Exotic weapon. A person with under 30 hours grinded in GW2. Can compete and completely dumpster a 10,000 hour PvEer with Full Legendary gear trying to step into PvP.

In New World it’s hundreds if not Thousands of hours of PvE to get to start the game. GW2 have multiple dimensions of progression.

  • PvP Progression
  • PvE casual Progression
  • Raid Progression
  • FoTM Progression
  • WvW Progression
  • Cosmetic Progression (Hence the dubbed name ~Fasion Wars~)

If you want to be a better PvP player in GW2. You hone your mechanical skills, not your gear.

If you want to look better in GW2. You have massive amounts of grind ahead of you for cosmetics. Even though that being the case. in GW2 there is many different avenues you can take to meet your cosmetic goals.

Based on your logic, extreme language, and impatience/entitlement…I’m guessing that you’re in your early twenties. The game has a grind and we all knew it. I don’t understand the outrage. Most of us don’t want things just handed to us. Either way, the grind has been greatly reduced since launch.

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idk man, comparing wow and destiny 2 i feel like the gate for endgame activities is way higher in those games.

Nothing on Old school runescape

I don’t mind fun multiple dimensions of grind. But two to four boring chores to be repeated for hundreds or thousands of hours if I’m not RNG carried. Is where MOST gamers clearly draw the line.

More so when that game was sold having the total opposite.

i mean i got 1.7k hrs now, working full time 8 hrs ( shift work ) sometimes 10hrs aswell

kinda works still…^^

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MMO.

Also this game has a very forgiving grind. Especially right now.

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LastStraw more like LastStrawMan.

Link your hours played and show off your character gear/skills/etc.

Spending more time doing menial tasks in a game does not make you a “hard worker”. Not wanting to do arbitrary bullshit the devs built in the game to slow people down does not make people “lazy”.

There’s a reason MMOs have become one of the most niche gaming genres, and it’s because the developers keep catering the game to the lowest common denominator; Bad players with a lot of free time. What a horrible demographic to take pride in.

Seems like you’ve got some issues with yourself to unpack.

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This Game is everything but Not grindy.

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The problem with the grind is that it’s unrewarding and frustrating. If you’re gathering and every where you go the shit is gone it’s a waste of time. If you do gather everything you need, all you do is craft whatever you want, then scrap it and do it all over again, and again, and again.

I do like the expertise grind though, since you can increase your expertise while you’re actually playing vs run to node A. run to EF. craft. salvage. repeat… If there was at least a chance that during the grind you’d get something even moderately useful it would be fun, but for the most part from 0 - 200 is a complete and utter waste of time for the sake of wasting time.

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In Most other games you grind till you reach the max lvl of the crafting Skill. Craft one Item for yourself and you are done. If you are one of the First Players who reached max crafting Skill Level you can maybe sell some items but thats it.

Here you can sell even your Trash items to someone. In other games everything besides max Level items are Trash and Nobody buys them.