Why would any new customers buy this game?

No. You TOLD me; You had data that supports your opinion.
I didn’t know what you’re trying to support… So I asked you to state your claim again, then show me what you’re trying to show me…

It is… You can review my post history I touched on this when 1.10 Hit.

AGS definitly botched the launch, but if they make improvements like they are people will start playing…

Final Fantasy has a MASSIVE negative backlash, but corrected and is wildly popular…
This isn’t the ONLY game to botch a launch… I will say it is the worse one.

So you’re saying that if AGS doesn’t fix things like FFXIV did it will shut down? I agree!

The player based declined each update by the way, it has yet to increase :sweat_smile:. Again, 100% accurate statistics available from steam since they only use Steam :sweat_smile:. 1.10 didn’t bring anyone back. It’s been a steady decline.

YES. I think AGS has to get their S#*% together.
I think 1.12 is a major step in the right direction.
I think time gates are too much.
I think there needs more end game content.
I think PvP balance needs to be address constantly. With SMALLER adjustments like the one with Axes as opposed to 17 nerfs to mages.
I think the RNG on crafted goods is bad for business.

All of these things are moving in the right direction. Its not perfect, but AGS listens to customers…
These are all things I’ve seen talked about excessively on these forums…
AGS is in fact listening.

You seem to be in the minority because many of us have now completely Uninstalled and even canceled our prime memberships over it. This actually includes me :sweat_smile:. Reviews from the PTS aren’t looking good either.

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If you’re done…
BYE.
You’re here to take people with you?
If the games bad, it’ll do that itself.
You don’t need to recruit anyone… The fact that you’re trying tells me your just butt-hurt.

I’m just correcting the incorrect things you tried posting. You’re the one thats lashing out because your personal feelings you tried to pass off as fact or an informed opinion have been thoroughly refuted :sweat_smile:. Don’t come at me about being butt hurt when you’re the one acting emotional and irrational :man_shrugging:.

LOL…
I can tell your SO mad… I’m sorry…
Look… So you said I tried to pass my personal feelings as facts… Well… If you knew they were my personal feelings, how does that work… You’re trying to say I tried to pass my opinion off as fact… However, The last line of my post that got you all rilled up was… “We will see”. How does one even MAKE a statement of fact about something in the future…

There’s so many plot holes in your narrative here the short bus you rode in on has a flat… Now go home Mad Boy.

I dont know how much evaluation AGS does from people that have stopped playing. The ones still playing dont give feedback why the others have left or stopped.

So go and ask people that have stopped between 1-30
Go and ask people that have stopped between 30-60
Go and ask people that have stopped after 60
Go and ask why people are still playing

Each group will probably give different reasons why they did not play further or are still playing.

What we all know and see is that there is a lack of new players joining the game. It would significantly reduce the downwards spiral of player numbers if new players picked up the game, but they dont. So you need to get some data why they do not pick up the game.

And I assume most of them which were kind of interested but did not pick it up were relying on some feedback in anykind (Web news, Reddit, Forums, other Players, Reviews on Steam etc.). And if you look at the average tendency of this game Reputation it mostly has a Negative “do not pickup this game”.

So as long as there are no positive news about the game maybe also some streamers / influencers / journalists stating… “get back into it, it has this and that new things bla bla” like it was the case in No mans sky.

As long as this game only fumbles around with only the existing players it will have an overall decreasing playership (it is natural that people just move on to other games and so on, but usually this is compensated with new players).

So as a developer I would focus on "how do we get new players or old players that stopped somewhere in the middle to return, while the ones having done everything still have something to grind on (like i.e. the town reputations, you could bind for example skins to certain town reputation ranks, that would be already enough for hardcore grindheads).

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Anyone that has even a basic grasp of psychology can see the emotional borderline rage spilling through with that opening line :sweat_smile:. The capital “LOL” you had to willfully do, the excessive use of ellipses, the various coping mechanisms and intellectually dishonest debate tactics you’ve tried to deploy :sweat_smile:. You can say what you want, but… anyone with a modicum of intelligence can see how worked up you are right now lol.

Simon says, bro!

Well, he asked me to show him mine and I did :flushed:, so now he has to show his or he owes me a steak… :joy::rofl:!

@GrayGhost79
I love you dude…
If spinning what I just said back onto me makes you feel better… Cool.

I’ll ignore that you skipped over every other thing I said…
I wont wonder why you did that… because we already know…

Have a great life…
I’ma keep ordering my Dog Food, and getting that sweet sweet free shipping with my Amazon Prime…

You should try eating human food. Way better for you :sweat_smile:.

Whoa, relax. You stated things as if they were facts, then when asked to back those facts, resorted to deflection and insults. You stated clearly

And all I did was ask you where you got that number of 1/4. If you had said it was just an opinion, cool. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you didn’t say that. So all I did was ask.

And your response is

Awesome. Mature response. Especially considering all I did was ask you to support your claim. Not sure how that made me a troll.

I refuted this 2x now… SO here’s the 3rd…
I gave my opinion and you said I was wrong and you have sources…
You never answer about what part I was wrong about…
Then you claim I tried to pass my opinion off as fact, when I even said… We will see…
You then tried to pass YOUR opinion off as fact…

You’re a mess… go home… (mom’s basement is a bit embarrassing at 42 yrs old.)

OUCH… you post this emoji :sweat_smile: but I know it’s :rage:

Here’s mine… :kissing_smiling_eyes:

You tried to state that forums are always excessively negative.

I’m sorry, I thought you were intelligent enough to understand that when I said that was incorrect because these are the official forums and not a 3rd party forum. I then linked information that supported this.

I also thought by linking the Steam statistics and saying you had no basis for assuming people would come back just because of the update when the feedback was overwhelmingly negative you understood that this was directly addressing your opinion and refuting it. The data shows that not a single update has increased the number of players.

I mean… which point were you looking for me to refute an additional time? How many times must I address it and refute it before you acknowledge its been addressed and refuted?

I cited that… Criticism is always more prevalent then compliments.

I don’t need data to support my opinion… It’s my opinion… If you dont like it… fine you have your own…

Nah man lol. I’m a pothead lol I rarely get angry. I also tend to disassociate a lot. My emoji choices are from decades of mutual misunderstandings communicating online. Words actually only make up a small percentage of communication. Tonality and body language are actually the biggest factors in successful communication. I’ve embraced this principal and encorporated it into my online communications long ago.