With 80% playerbase loss - its time to bring back Full loot?

No one wpvps anymore anyways what makes you think people will with full loot xd

That’s the game they wanted at the begining… Of course it’s a bit late to change and yes I agree certainly a loss of more players… but if at the launch he was prepared with full optimization on this system of PvP (like Albion) I’m sure that the community now will be more larger 100%

So yes this post here it’s more like a dream in our head hardcore PvP players… Maybe someday the Messiah of the game will come and instantly show us the true light :star2:

Ppl can still do this without full loot. So the terrible idea is to let ppl do that. So that is nothing to do with full loot.

To answer your question, first you need to find the reason by yourself why noone does that anymore. Then do some thought what can full loot do to it.

Try Escape From Tarkov - a full loot shooter. It’s not a game, it’s a fkn rage-fest. And I have like 2k hrs in that…
Big NO to full loot in NW

It is really sad how you make yourself believe grievers will somehow decide not to ruin a game based on your idea, when it absolutely is griever-heaven.
Right now, most grievers get bored after a few minutes, but in your full loot idea, they will have insufferable more motivation.

You sound like you know a lot of grievers for someone who never plays pvp game. I never met any of them so i dont know what they thought and won’t tell what they think like i am an expert! Well kids nowdays have amazing imagination. I bet you are a genius.

Sorry to hear that. Tarkov is hardcore game. It is nothing like COD or Battlefield. Sadly you wont find harmless rabbits to kill even if you spend 2k hours in that game.

Nope, no rabits, either sweat till you bleed or evelasting pain and sorrow, it really is hardcore… I come to NW only to chill, to do some fun PVE, to solo some elites, cuz it’s fun and kinda challenging. But full-loot will just ruin it. The game will die momentarilly. No-one will ever use anything expensive, crafting will die, you will be looting green stuff and equip it. This will be the game.

Who will take musket and stay few hours and shooting nothing to get nothing, guys who are really bored ? With full loot system it will become nightmare in current state. So no for full loot in open world. Albion before gank nerfed was unplayable for pve players almost without a chance to run away.

Somehow this calls for “look in a mirror”, because that’s the feeling one gets, reading how you argue for full loot!

nah fam

Then prove me wrong. How majority fool loot pvp players play their game? And remmember i asked you too when you said BS about it. I still don’t see your answer. Just prove me wrong and i will apology. Feel free to challenge me too.

I see. Well then im sorry to hear that. Tarkov is not a bad game. Its just fact that hardcore full loot pvp game has complicated learning curve. And some ppl broke first before acomplished it. Someone naked with shotgun can be as deadly as someone with juggernaut gear, if he knows what he does.
I understand, but maybe you should try other pvp mmo with better gameplay and storry. FF14 is amazing game. And i think its free until lvl 60. Recomend you to try it. :slight_smile:

Noone. Thats why im speachless when someone said something that weird.

Why not? I still cant see any logic connection between them.

Then you just have found solution for this problem. You can see from Albion’s hostory, how they have fixed it.

That’s because you don’t leave your bubble and have no ability to consider other arguments. Full loot pvp doesn’t work how you imagine because of basic psychology. Your examples to the contrary are, up to this date, microcosms or simply consist of the already existing full loot pvp player base in total. So your argument of full loot pvp somehow resulting in an increase in players has no foundation in reality.
No mater how many times you try and picture people how have no fun with PVP as idiots who don’t know how to play the game:

All the prople who like full loot pvp are already playing such games and convincing them to switch to your idea of new world will be hard, and even if one could, the entire lot of them would barely replace the players who are still clinging to the hope of AGS improving the game as it is now. But these players will leave in droves, if AGS would consider turning new world into an full loot pvp trash game.

No, I’m totally fine with tarkov and I always average at 8-10KD towards the end of the wipe. I haven’t been playing it for 4 years to not like it in the end :smiley:

NW is a lot of fun and I feel like, while WoW is trying to res, we are here for good

@2laky answered perfectly nothing more I can say, full loot pvp I am up dor aure I will take part in it but only in new hardcore pvp content in closed dungeons with gear score cap.

apples and oranges

Nah, gear fear is always the same.